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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It was - 12c, so not spectacularly cold, and he had a heart attack.

Very misleading headline.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

but they weren't just freezing temperatures, they were subfreezing!

love it when an entirely factual headline has an obvious attempt to spin it for clicks

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

-12 is not that cold to you? Are you by any chance a polar bear?

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you grow up in a colder climate, no, it’s not bad because you’re dressed for it.

-12C is only 10F. It can get down to -25F (-32C) here in the coldest parts of the winter. For example, our high temperature this coming Saturday is supposed to be 2F (-17C).

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's still deadly cold and should require extra precautions. Even Chick-fil-A gives their employees little heated domes despite being psychotic enough to force people outside when the standard drive through has worked fine for generations.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Any temperature below somewhere around 60F/15C is "deadly cold", as in your survivability depends entirely in how well you are clothed as you will eventually die of hypothermia otherwise, the only variable being how long it takes. Kinda like how you can get a 3rd degree burn with 44C water, it just takes 6 hours.

-12C really isn't all that cold - lowest temperature in northern Finland this winter so far has been -42,8C / -45F - but it is a temperature where you will need to pay some attention on how you dress for it. For me, it's around (-10 to 15c depending on the wind) where I'll put on long-johns in the morning and add a sweater instead of just having a t-shirt under my jacket.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's really not bad. If you are in a survival mode then 10f is bad, but working on it is pretty normal. 

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well there are other factors. Was he out there 8 hrs straight? Or did he get a break in a heated box for 10 mins every hr or something? Yeah if you're WORKING it's doable. But as a guard does he just stand around watching? Or just walking? These things matter.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What also matters is his clothing. But the fact that he had a heart attack usually points to something besides the cold. 

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Fair, but when doing jobs like this, their should be health exams. I had to do a rigorous fitness test for my last manufacturing job. Rigorous enough that I was sore afterward.

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Yes, you’re dressed for the weather, as I said. You wouldn’t go out in shorts and a t-shirt and stand there for hours. But if you have a good jacket, gloves, hat, boots, and maybe even snow pants, you can stay perfectly comfortable and safe in cold weather. My point was “cold” depends on what you’re used to.

Most security and construction jobs around here provide employees with big branded coats and winter hats for them to stay warm while they’re doing their jobs, I would assume it no different elsewhere.

That wouldn’t have helped this guy, though, since he died of a heart attack.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The headline is accurate though. What's misleading about it?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

It heavily implies he died because of the cold, but that may not have even been the cause.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Like they chained him up outside w/o a jacket or something. Thanks for the clarity.