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That's silly.
You won't get to debate it forever. Just until the purity of your ideology leads you to a starve to death in a gulag.
People with the position you're arguing with, usually come from some sort of privilege, and they just don't understand what it is to have it truly bad. They usually experience some sort of advercity and prosecution, and they, as humans often do, believe that that was bad and it can't be worse, so when they sacrifice people on altar of endless purity checks, they don't think of it as an act of cruelty, because they believe that they sacrifice people faiths akin to bad arguments on twitter, not being shot in the face by a paramilitary member.
The same centrist Dems who willingly sacrificed the Palestinians and are now proposing that minority groups in the US be sacrificed as well. And they're certainly not proposing abolishing or cutting ICE's funding. Kamala and her clique perform regular electoral calculus where they figure out what minority group is worth throwing into the woodchipper to appeal to more middle aged suburban white people.
You can look for excuses all you want, but you had choices, not great, and terrifyingly bad, and you chose one that is worse, and as a consequence of that, a bunch of evil happens that could be avoided. And at this point it doesn't matter how not great the other choice was.
You have myopia and are incapable of planning long term.
In order to plan long term you need your short term plans figured out first.
Hard to think about vacation plans, if you're actively bleeding out, because you had a choice of relatively shitty travel agent, and a murderer with a knife, and you went with murderer because the agent tried to push pretty bad vacation to you, and now you are lying in a parking lot being stabbed, by a murderer with a knife, who explicitly wanted to murder you with a knife.
But this metaphor aside, if your long term plans involved electing Trump, those were the shiftiest plans ever regardless, long term or not.