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Tangentially related, but specifically the religious people who are sure that you need religion to know good from evil and act morally genuinely scare me.
They're just admitting they believe noone really tries to do the right thing for the right reasons. You know, like, these are the conventions we set so living in a society can even work. Some are coded in laws. Lots of them are implicitly agreed on.
But no, according to them instead we're supposed to do it for fear of "bad afterlife" or of a spank from sky daddy.
That tells a lot more about what "moral" means to them than anything.
Worse, it suggests they have no empathy.
Sure, that too. But empathy is a rather complex matter.
I just can't trust someone who can't see any other reason than "because divine retribution" to treat others well.
"What's stopping you from murdering and raping if you don't have religion?"
"Absolutely nothing. I rape and murder exactly as many people as I want to. The number just happens to be 0. "
I've been saying this for years. If you are "being good" in order to appease a deity or to secure a comfortable afterlife, you aren't a moral person. Goodness should be for its own sake. Do unto others isn't about ensuring better treatment of yourself, its about treating people the way you wish to be treated yourself without the expectation of quid pro quo.