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I mean you can't get a gas car for $15k either.
Right. EVs are CHEAPER than gas cars everywhere else. That's why they are selling so well.
They're not cheaper, they're just heavily subsidized.
Gasoline is subsidized.
No one is talking about gasoline. We're talking about the price to purchase the vehicle.
So?
So what?
So are regular cars... EV being subsidized just levels the playfield
What are "regular cars" and how are they subsidized?
Gas is subsidized.
They are cheaper to manufacture in the long run though. Less parts and complexity.
They're not. They have this very expensive thing called a battery.
That's what Elon sold us. The cost of a battery has dropped 90% in the last decade. Why dont ICE haters quote the cost of catalytic converters?
They're still very expensive.
I don't know, why would they?
Because EVs don't have them and they are expensive. JFC buddy, would a crayon picture help?
Why wouldn't they quote the cost of spark plugs or cylinder heads or transmission syncros? They're all part of the same powertrain. Were you dropped on your head as a child?
Just what do you think is easier to make. A battery where sheets of metal are coated in a liquid, dried, cut, rolled, and placed in a box? or all the parts needing milling and placement for a an automatic transmission engine?
I don't know what's easier to make. I do know what's more expensive.
If you get a vehicle that's very efficient and give it 150 miles of range, they can be quite a bit less expensive, but we also know no one will buy them.
Get up to date. Lithium packs now cost $108 per kw hr. Or $5500 for a typical pack.
A catalytic converter on an F150 is $2000.
Where are you getting this information from? A typical pack is 60kWh at minimum, which is $6500, assuming that rate is correct.
Beater cars are about $2K-$7k round here
You can buy a used Nissan leaf 5 years old or newer for 4K.
I mean you can get a used beater for $1 but now you're throwing a billion new variables into the mix that aren't comparable.
You can in many other countries, lol. Try $3k for a gas car. That is closer to the global entry point.
You got a source for that? This is a brand new, road-legal car that meets modern safety standards?