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I've worked 13 hours straight and had to organize a push to get us fed dinner.

There's a good chance I'm stuck here for 2 more hours, meaning I get 0 time to do anything except sleep and do this again.

I want to quit so badly, but I'm basically forced to be here because this job market is such shit that it took a year to get this job. And I consider myself lucky to have this.

There's a thread on lemmygrad from someone that's also exhausted around the discourse about the American "left". Yes we suck, yes we are privileged compared to a lot of people, yes our organizing is tame and not effective, yes my material conditions mean I'm not doing adventurism and neither are my comrades.

BUT don't claim we're not trying. I know people working two jobs. I technically have 2 jobs and am maybe able to get back on my feet financially in a few months. We still do what we can and it's not enough but we're not at that point. Yeah that's privileged if you call being scared shitless of being homeless and being abused by literally every other human here...

I'm tired

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[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

if you're not feeling your privilege, it means you're not feeling the horrors imposed on the rest of the world, you're scared shitless of being homeless yes, but are you stressed out over the U.S. NATO and israel coming in and bringing back slavery to your streets on top of that? we have comrades from Mexico, Lebanon, Palestine, Cuba, Venezuela and a dozen other countries that can wake up tomorrow as a part of the 80 civilians killed by a U.S. special operation, can wake up in the next Libya. And the whole anti-immigration bullshit, a white cis American leftist man doesn't have to worry about ICE coming in and sending him to a concentration camp.Yes, you fear falling into health debt and college debt, but not IMF debt.

And as far I've seen the western leftists who are actually doing something are a minority of a minority, I consider Hexbear to be one of the best leftist forums in the entire global north and goddamn some of you people can not be trusted, to not call out anyone here, in other forums or "leftists online" I saw many willing to completely ignore the genocide and saying vote for Kamalla Harris, the western left most of us see is "I condom hamas I condom maduro I condom china I condom regime I donate 5 dollar to rich man Hasan Piker".

And your biggest privilege is the size of your success, if a communist revolution happens in the USA, it wouldn't be bombed by the U.S., it wouldn't have an embargo imposed on it by the U.S., it wouldn't have its leaders assassinated by the U.S., stuff the rest of the world has to consider, the USSR at its size still got completely destroyed by U.S. interference, how would a revolution in Ghana survive?

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I strongly agree with most of what you are saying but I would gently push back on this point:

if a communist revolution happens in the USA, it wouldn't be bombed by the U.S., it wouldn't have an embargo imposed on it by the U.S., it wouldn't have its leaders assassinated by the U.S.

The American left is as weak as it is because the US has spent the last century bombing, economically disenfranchising, imprisoning, and assassinating every left-aligned or not-white-supremacist-aligned movement. Immediate examples that come to mind are Malcolm X, MLK, Fred Hampton, Eugene Debs, the bombings in Tulsa and Philadelphia, the Homestead strike, and the leadership of BLM after Ferguson.

I meant as in after the revolution is done and the U.S. capitalist state is gone

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also

BUT don't claim we're not trying.

https://hexbear.net/comment/6805346

We'll do that when you stop claiming china isn't trying.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

One dude is not equivalent to arguably the world's strongest economic superpower. They could say "no more Labubus" and shut off half our economy with sanctions overnight. I pick up a gun and become Swiss cheese before stepping foot in wherever I am trying to adventure. Don't be silly.

so instead you want chinese people to get shredded into cheese instead of you,got it

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You keep maximizing “pick up a gun” “adventurism” nobody’s suggesting that, obviously, it’s just a fact that American political activism hasn’t developed beyond going to marches. That’s partially due to people in your situation, too tired and beaten down to act, but don’t pretend anyone asking for more out of the imperial proletariat is telling you to go out like Van Spronsen

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's a lot more than that going on. Part of the reason you don't hear about it is the small scale, and mainstream media ain't gonna tell you what local left groups are doing.

And I can't talk about it for op sec reasons.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then don’t make this post at all? Why have all these reasons and excuses for not doing action if you actually are doing action?

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

I can't just rant? I'm not oppressed enough to complain about my life because according to you people I am king of the world. SO privileged over here running off 4 hours of sleep lol