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I had a recipe that called for so-called Holland peppers, which sounded wack so I looked it up and of course they were actually stolen from Indonesia.
Yup. And the most interesting British food is curry. Funny how that goes. But i suppose you can't really fault them for it. On the whole, the further north a country is the more bland and boring their food is. Scandinavian food is also terrible. German food is passable but mainly because of southern Germany. Russia kind of straddles the line between Nordic style blandness and some more interesting and complex flavors, mostly thanks to the wonderful Slavic pickling culture and some southern influences from the Caucasus.
agreed. having freezing winters and a climate that many fruits and vegetables can't grow has not only inspired blandness in food, but general resentment and coveting of anything of taste and distinction. No wonder Europes history has been primarily of invasion, occupation and looting.
Let's not jump straight to blaming Europe's warmongering tendencies on climate. The Romans were pretty warmongering too and they came from a very mild climate where they have generally quite good food these days.
Though the demand for spices was an important part of the initial driving motivation of European colonialism it's not the full picture.
Food is one thing - it can be quite logically connected to climate and what you can grow where - but i think that applying this same geographic determinism to macro-historic trends is a bit too simplistic.
You are right, I waa being hyperbolic and leaning into some anti western sentiments i've heard. I should have considered examples like the Romans, as well as the Aztecs, who practiced conquering and slavery to expand their empire, also in mild climates.