TankieJerk

They were directed politically after the fact but neither China nor Russia wanted them. No government actively wants a famine… Yet you’ll happily attribute it to these two governments in particular.

Are there other national famines you incorrectly think were desired by governments/ideologies?

…and I’m not talking about artificial shortages such as in Ireland, or the concentration camps of the boerwar… You know, Colonial famines.

"No government actively wants a famine... except for those non-red fascist states!"

Sorry that you believe that colonialism cannot be performed by an imperialist state with a long history of colonialism, if it has a coat of red paint. We - or rather, you - are done here.

I never denied famines

This you?

You are incorrect, the mass famines of the USSR and CCP were mostly caused by a single conman, named Trofim Lysenko, who was lying about agricultural techniques/results in order to keep his job (taking his bag like a true economic opportunist):

or the gulag system,

This you?

It feels like a false equivalence to compare liberal-in-name governments to socialist-in-name governments after the horrors that the USSR and CCP unleashed upon the world.

To that point, even the Gulag system whilst being a horrible and targeted system of political persecution, even there the vast majority of victims survived (1 million died in Gulags, 17 million survived). So you’re adopting misinformation because you’re coopted into Capitalism.

Systems of Authoritarian oppression often occure after revolutions, during famines, or during times of instability. That’s human nature.

So now we've moved on from "There weren't horrors and even if there were, it wasn't their fault" to "Everyone does it when stressed"