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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I never denied famines

This you?

You are incorrect, the mass famines of the USSR and CCP were mostly caused by a single conman, named Trofim Lysenko, who was lying about agricultural techniques/results in order to keep his job (taking his bag like a true economic opportunist):

or the gulag system,

This you?

It feels like a false equivalence to compare liberal-in-name governments to socialist-in-name governments after the horrors that the USSR and CCP unleashed upon the world.

To that point, even the Gulag system whilst being a horrible and targeted system of political persecution, even there the vast majority of victims survived (1 million died in Gulags, 17 million survived). So you’re adopting misinformation because you’re coopted into Capitalism.

Systems of Authoritarian oppression often occure after revolutions, during famines, or during times of instability. That’s human nature.

So now we've moved on from "There weren't horrors and even if there were, it wasn't their fault" to "Everyone does it when stressed"

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wait, but if you're quoting them acknowledging it....

....then you claim they were saying "there weren't horrors".... isn't that a bit like trying to have your cake and eat it too? They were either denying it, or actively discussing it - and it doesn't look like they were denying it (just discussing the causes in a way you don't like).

Are you a Tankie?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wait, but if you’re quoting them acknowledging it….

In the same dubious way that 'acknowledging' there was 'unrest' at Tiananmen Square whilst blaming the protesters is acknowledging the Tiananmen Square massacre, fucking sure.

They were either denying it, or actively discussing it - and it doesn’t look like they were denying it

"It happened but it was just a little mistake by one man, no one involved really wanted it and they all tried to stop it!"

If someone said that about the Holocaust, would that be:

A. Denialism

OR

B. Not denialism?

Fucking forget it. One post here, and one test post on ML three months ago?