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Presentation from the 39C3 about the "Adenauer SRP+", a bus that was modified with the goal to make the lives of the far-right more difficult.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

I couldn't find English subtitles, but here's some quick rundown, it's partially from the video and partially from info I got about the topic from elsewhere. Discretion is advised, my German is getting really shitty over the years (and it was never good to begin with).

They're talking about the spiritual successor of the Nazi party in Germany, called Alternative für Deutschland (AfD). Currently it got ~1/7 of the German parliament, it's specially popular in Eastern Germany (lower income people are easier to rally into supporting a fascist party by using immigrants as scapegoat for their poverty), and it's getting stronger.

Currently the party is legalised but people like those two are [IMO rightfully] trying to get it banned as anticonstitutional. And at this rate the AfD being a problem isn't just a theoretical matter, they're already threatening and killing people, right-wing violence is exploding there acc. to the video. Check the graphs around 6:40 and you'll see (Left: criminality split by political ideology; right: criminality in comparison with the share of the parliament the AfD has).

So they're gathering evidence of all that shit, and pressing politicians to ban the bloody party. There's a site gathering all this evidence, afd-verbot.de. They're also using the fact property rights are non-negotiable in Germany to rent the property facing the AfD hall and doing stuff like projecting Hitler's Young into the AfD hall, since a lot of the AfD modus operandi is to say "nooo~ we walk like ducks, quack like ducks, do salutes like ducks, but we are no ducks".

Later on they talk on how fascism's path to power goes through conservatives, so in order for the AfD to seize power it'd need a coalition with the CDU (Christian Democratic Union), and they're trying to prevent this. Then they mention a regional CDU president, Walter Lübcke (Hesse); he was strongly opposed to the AfD, and got killed by them, so they're trying to build a memorial to him etc. to warn against a conservative/fascist alliance.

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

They’re talking about the spiritual successor of the Nazi party in Germany, called Allianz für Deutschland (AfD).

Alternative für Deutschland.

It's also not the successor to the Nazi party. That would be the Deutsche Reichspartei (banned) or the Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD) which is now called Die Heimat (Homeland). Deeply unpopular party, but still dangerous.

AFD was originally a soft eurosceptic liberal conservative party, but more moderate members including the party's founder were forced out in 2015. Basically the party fell in the hands of far right and pro-Russian entryists around that time, and thanks to Merkel's handling of the refugee crisis it was at this point they started seeing real political success.

it’s specially popular in Eastern Germany (lower income people are easier to rally into supporting a fascist party

Not just income. That's a simplification.

Re-unification wasn't without issues. East Germans were often treated poorly. The companies they had helped build with their labour and taxes, were often sold of far too cheap, and East Germans were left with relatively little to show for it.

This resulted in a perfectly understandable scepticism of traditionally West German political parties.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for pointing out corrections and clarifications. (I fixed the party's name.)

I called it a "spiritual successor" because it's basically the same right "appeal" to the masses, but I'm aware it isn't a direct successor to the National Socialist Party. If I understood its history correctly, the process AfD went through is similar to the one of the Lega Nord, in Italy: the party starts gathering people for one cause (for AfD it was euroscepticism, for LN it was independence), but internal composition changes and so does the ideology, going further and further onto the right.

That [lower income people are easier to rally into supporting fascism] is a simplification.

Yup, I'm aware. Or rather, a generalisation, that applies better elsewhere — the trashing of their companies is zbs rather specific to East Germany, but elsewhere you still see fascists trying to gather support from poorer demographics (e.g. rural Southerners in USA, Protestants in Brazil, etc.) I love that you went into the specifics though, this is actually important to contextualise it.

[–] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah. Sorry if I came off as a pedant, but given how serious the threat AfD and similar far-right parties pose, I feel it's important to go into the specifics. You need to know and understand the enemy to stand a chance of defeating it.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

No need to apologise - you didn't come off as a pedant, and the stuff you said is completely relevant.

Plus as I mentioned my German isn't exactly stellar, and I only realised there was an English audio after @HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com pointed it out. That increases the odds I got something wrong, by quite a bit.

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