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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, intelligence is not necessarily essential to dogness, just as whiteness is not essential to swans.

Says who? Are you speaking for all doggender folks now? And swangenders as well?

Otherkin are a recognised social phenomenon to which scientists assign some legitimacy. But okay, you want more direct proof that scientists think these identities are genuine and worth valuing, here it is:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327969897_Policing_the_Fluff_The_Social_Construction_of_Scientistic_Selves_in_Otherkin_Facebook_Groups

Jesus Christ. That paper isn't talking about what you think it is. It's discussing the use of scientific terminology and thinking in online groups of 'otherkin', and how they use it to attempt to fashion and validate their identity. It's no more saying that the identity is 'genuine and worth valuing' than a paper discussing how racialists use scientific terminology and thinking in their attempts to fashion and validate their own identity. The paper points out, at several points, that their thinking is not backed up by scientific evidence.

That term is culturally appropriated, “parogen” is the more respectful term for the online phenomenon.

Jesus fucking Christ.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Otherkin know that current accepted science does not support their other- than-humanness; they also know they experience life as other-than-human beings. These things are both equally true, so they must find ways to reconcile the two if they hope to ever achieve anything like the recognition they see in the LGBTQ+ community.

Dr Proctor believes and states that otherkin are entirely genuine in their experience of themselves as nonhuman. Would you at least agree with the PhD specialising in this area, that otherkin are not lying or trolling?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I never said otherkin were lying or trolling. I don't think people who believe in ghosts are generally lying or trolling either, and that's another area where scientific terminology and thinking is used to justify a belief, but that doesn't fucking mean that I take kindly to the idea that disputing the existence of ghosts is verboten and bigoted.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

Very well, my estimation of you has risen. Nonetheless, I still think you should have chosen kindness over pedantry.