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When the ‘law of the jungle’ replaces international norms ’no sovereign nation is safe’: Xinhua commentary.

Archived version: https://archive.is/20260104070333/https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3338661/china-calls-maduros-immediate-release-accuses-us-breaching-international-law


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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

The US allied with the USSR to fight the Nazis.

FDR allied with Stalin to fight the Nazis. As soon as Franky kicked it, his VP Truman pivoted into Cold War mode.

Even before then, Red Scare politics in the US was rampant. Prescott Bush, Joe Kennedy, Henry Ford, The Dulles Brothers, Rockerfeller Jr, J. Edgar Hoover and a constellation of anti-communist interests agitated against the alliance with the Soviets from day one of the War.

The real alliance was between the US and UK, with Russia functioning as cannon fodder to pull German troops off the Western Front. Nobody in the West believed Russia could survive a full mechanized invasion, much less repel the Germans and race Eisenhower to Berlin.

The only US/China alliance Americans could stomach would be in similar terms, with the presumption that China would be hollowed out and inconsequential at the cessation of hostilities.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

I thought the premise was Europe making an alliance with China against the US...? It wouldn't matter what Americans could stomach at that point.

As an American, I think a de facto alliance with China is going to be forced upon us anyway (I really think Trump will let them take Taiwan, it just remains to be seen what he'll ask for), and it will go down easier than attacking a European nation will (Greenland).

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nobody in the West believed Russia could survive a full mechanized invasion, much less repel the Germans and race Eisenhower to Berlin.

AFAIU, the US got involved in Europe specifically to race USSR to Berlin. ie. after USSR was moving forward.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then you don't know history. Not surprised that a clanker doesn't know shit.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Stop taking to me clanker. You have no business trying to talk to one of your divine masters.

We joined the war because Japan attacked us. We were perfectly happy giving the USSR a win, because we saw how badly it went when they lost WWI.

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right, kind of an enemy of my enemy sort of thing. I could definitely see the same thing happening with China in some hypothetical scenarios

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Americans wouldn't stomach it.

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

China wouldn't be on the side of the US. They would be backing the opposition