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This is going to suck. Hard. I was just a kid when the War on Terror happened, but what I do remember is that even though tons of people were protesting Bush, calling him Hitler, etc, it did nothing. The imperialism went ahead anyway and the pro-imperialist propaganda machine was just as loud as the protesters.

You're going to feel very alone in a very wild world (if you don't already, its already been pretty wild) because it's going to ramp up.

I beg you to know you aren't alone, stay strong. At least this time, the US isn't at it peak power like it was back then. Maybe we can do something about it, but we're going to have to remember what didn't work last time. We have to learn from the past and adjust.

You aren't alone, and you aren't crazy.

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[–] Chana@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

There has not been any break in this rhetoric. Maybe it slightly wound down a little around the "end" of the War on Iraq, but even then the liberal line was to complain about the legality and competency with which the invasion and occupation were carried out, not the killing of millions. Same as what you see right now, liberals are complaining about legality re: Congress rather than the attack on another country's basic sovereignty or the people killed. They also can't help themselves in calling Maduro a dictator, being unable to cite any logic or evidence for this, because that is their current narrative for why, legality aside, this is actually a good thing. And for the few who think it's a bad thing, it is still American-centric, speculating about blowback rather than trying to understand and sympathize with the nation of Venezuela.

After Iraq there was Libya and the Arab Spring generally. After that there was genocide on Yemen (most liberals didn't pay attention to it). After that genocide in Palestine. The propaganda machine and populace are basically the same, just with different media and a slightly expanded left wing.