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How do people actually fall into the "Tankie" mindset? (anarchist.nexus)

submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by stinky@anarchist.nexus to c/anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying "99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in 'Tiny Man Square' [...] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda [...]," I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn't change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.

I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.

Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?

EDIT: Thank you to everyone who has responded! This thread has been very insightful :)

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[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Hoooooly shit you weren't kidding!

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Y'all defederated peeps are sure missing on valuable insights like "95% of Chinese citizens like China"

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I mean to me it was shocking to find out that such a vast majority of the people preferred the SU and expressed their support in an official referendum months before the dissolution. That the dissolution therefore was completely against the will of the people.

Similar sentiments about china apply, where we are told that it is a grey dystopian state that needs to keep a close guard from it's citizens, lest their unhappiness spill into counter-revolution, when in fact most of its citizens are fairly happy with their lifes the way it is. And actually have a positive outlook on the future? When was the last time someone expressed similar sentiments in the west?

So I would absolutely classify it as a valuable insight.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It's also a valuable insight that authoritarian regimes like USSR and China can just disregard the will of their own populace when it fits their interests. Should probably be point of out what an abject failure states are and what a farce it is to defend red states as "the will of the people"

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right, I don't think that comes as news to anyone who has heard about US healthcare. The fact that the people however wanted a vanguard party, that people aren't just desolate and downtrodden under communism but actually hopeful about the future was extremely insightful news to me.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

People can be happy about monarchies. Monarchies are still fucking bad!

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok? Still after years of hearing otherwise this kind of insight is what broke me out of capitalist propaganda.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm happy for you. All I say is, don't trade one propaganda for the next

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Idk this lenin guy sounds pretty good to me (I'm reading State and Revolution rn)

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Lenin wrote different things than what he actually did.

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