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Is this imperialism by China, a country which is supposed to be left-wing? Leftists are normally anti-imperialism. Wouldn't it be better to let Taiwan democratically decide whether they want to be part of China or not?

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that Taiwan would be happy to be just Taiwan instead of Republic of China, if that got them their UN recognition.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sure.

If People's Republic of China agreed to ratify their UN membership and ratify them as a country if they just changed their name to Taiwan, you think they couldn't get 75% of their government & 50% of the people to vote for the name change?

I claim that their name has nothing to do with why People's Republic of China is threatening them with an invasion and forceful annexation.

Calling it annexation is the pan-green position of the DPP. The other major ROC position of the KMT (pan-blue) would never use annexation because it would infer that the PRC is legitimate.

The PRC, of course, would also not use annexation. They would claim reunification of the country from a seperatist groups like the DPP.

I feel odd having to say this, but because I understand the other side doesn't mean I agree with them. Its important for me to understand the major positions in this conflict.

[–] ruan@lemmy.eco.br -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You are wrong.

Does me saying that help you notice that you are wrong?

They call themselves oficially the "true" govern of China to this day, and their internal diplomacy is based on that.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does me saying that help you notice that you are wrong?

Well, no, if you just say it. Duh. Who do you think you are?

They call themselves oficially the “true” govern of China to this day, and their internal diplomacy is based on that.

I feel like you totally did not read the last sentence of my comment, so I'll quote it here so you can be sure not to miss it!

if that got them their UN recognition.

[–] purple_drank@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No-one in the government of Taiwan considers themselves the true government of China. But they're stuck with the old constitutional claims from the 1940s still on the paper because any change to reflect reality would be called a "declaration of independence" by China, and trigger a military reaction.

You don't think that people in the KMT would? I think there are still some who hold that view and would never say it because it's brings waaaay too much heat and no political points. Rather, the KMT has shifted to cultural identity position.

"We are the original China; we don't need to declare independence because we are already the masters of our own (ROC) house." - Chairwoman Cheng