this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2025
95 points (100.0% liked)
Games
21182 readers
282 users here now
Tabletop, DnD, board games, and minecraft. Also Animal Crossing.
Rules
- No racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, or transphobia. Don't care if it's ironic don't post comments or content like that here.
- Mark spoilers
- No bad mouthing sonic games here :no-copyright:
- No gamers allowed :soviet-huff:
- No squabbling or petty arguments here. Remember to disengage and respect others choice to do so when an argument gets too much
- Anti-Edelgard von Hresvelg trolling will result in an immediate ban from c/games and submitted to the site administrators for review. :silly-liberator:
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It's going to be cool when every billionaire has succession wars fought by their dozens of children.
The best the big bourgeois can dream of is monarchy, definitely tells one something
"Historical progression is linear, there is only socialism on the other side of capitalism, 'techno-feudalism' is gibberish, no way could capitalism bend back around to feudalism"
Calling monopoly capitalism "techno-feudalism" only serves to whitewash capitalism. What we are seeing is capitalism returning to form, now that the last shreds of Cold War pretense that capitalism can be humane and lawful have been shed. Haute bourgeoisie have always been this weird, they just used to have better PR.
Yeah I read Vaurofakis's book, he basically just described normal rent seeking in the monopoly stage of capitalism but pretended like it was a novel break from all the capitalism that came before it. As if railroads weren't just the datacenters of yesteryear.
The distinguishing feature of capitalism, in contrast with feudalism with banks, is that under capitalism there is a tradable promise of social mobility and a competition for the same top of the pyramid instead of inheritance of it.
The "free market" phase of capitalism is just an early, and pretty brief stage of capitalist development. For most of its life cycle afterward, the promise of social mobility is a scam.
The Cold War was a state of exception in which capitalism temporarily distorted itself to survive a strong international labor movement, embodied by the USSR; conditions favoring greater social mobility were tolerated as a concession then. Only the appearance of another militant labor front on that scale has even the remotest chance of bending the capitalists that far ever again.
Even back in their time, Marx and Engles observed that capitalism's liberatory role was limited and short-lived, and that if it outlived its time, the result would be "the common ruin of the contending classes;" and the prosperity capitalism opens the way for could only be completed by the production mode to come: socialism.
This is exactly the kind of reasoning that "capitalism built your iphone" people use. Capitalism doesn't open the way for anything; human technology builds upon earlier human technology largely independently of who controls the profits and how.
It's not unambiguously liberatory compared to its coincidental historical predecessor in Northwest Eurasia, its full development is not a prerequisite for building socialism, and as you've acknowledged, it does have the ability to turn humans into permanent subordinates that are structurally stripped of virtually all consequential agency.