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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There have been 3 bear attacks in the USA this year, all three fatal.

Now do men.

[–] nocturne@piefed.social 44 points 3 days ago (6 children)

There were 3,849 women murdered in the US in 2023. But it does not list who killed them.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/

in 2021, 147 women were killed by 144 men.

https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/07/04/census-details-how-often-men-kill-women

using the lower number from 2021, and the bear fatalities from the same year (6 total, only 4 were women), women are 36.5 times more likely to be killed by a man than a bear... and this is not counting rape.

Bear attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You didn't figure in factors like number of men total or number of bears total, and the amount of exposure to either.

[–] msage@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You are such an asshole.

I'm not the first to say that, not the last, but you need to be reminded of that constantly.

Fuck you, fuck your bad faith arguments, and go away.

You are also the reason why people choose bears.

[–] nocturne@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago

You are also the reason why people choose bears.

That was my thought reading every single one of their replies.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

I don't know who this guy is, nor do I want to read their history... But I agree, they do seem like an asshole.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 3 days ago

I've never met this person before in my life.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You didn't factor in the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There were 3,849 women murdered in the US in 2023

Murder isn't the only way to be killed. Case in point, 2,958 women's deaths are classified as "passenger vehicle accidents", plus another 2,126 pedestrian deaths.

By gender, the overwhelming majority of accident drivers are men (13,085 : 5,212). So if you're worried specifically about dying and you exclude all murderers, just getting in a car makes other male drivers vastly more dangerous than bears.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Holy shit, that's nuts! This should be in the top comments for this silly hypothetical lol. I think you just checkmated nearly everyone trying to argue against the bear.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

How many men existed in 2021 and how many bears existed in 2021?almost got the per capita rates

Also if you're going to include the rape statistics you gotta include them for bears too.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 7 points 3 days ago

100% of bear sexual encounters are rape.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I'm sure your keen criticism of statistical assessments of the situation will change the minds of woman everywhere.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Is that scaling for interactions? Total amount of women who've interacted with a bear VS a man.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 7 points 3 days ago

You can't control other peoples sexuality, dork.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

2,958 women's deaths are classified as "passenger vehicle accidents", plus another 2,126 pedestrian deaths.

By gender, the overwhelming majority of accident drivers are men (13,085 : 5,212). So if you're worried specifically about dying and you exclude all murderers, just getting in a car makes other male drivers vastly more dangerous than bears.