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The Supreme Court’s Disorienting Elevation of Religion
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It really is a great example!!!
But you sidestepped the question.
It is currently illegal to refuse service based on race. I can’t have a sign in my shop that says “no blacks”
Do you believe the I should be allowed to refuse service based on racism?
Because that’s where the reasonableness argument comes in. I can refuse service to you for any reason I want EXCEPT specific protected reasons (handicap, race, etc)
You seem to be making the argument that I should be allowed to post a sign saying “no blacks” and such signs once existed…
Thoughts?
If someone black asked you to make a black supremacy website, you can turn them away because you don't agree with their views, not because of their race. That's not discrimination, that's expressing your free speech rights via choosing who and what you associate with.
If I don't agree with making an LGBT themed cake or website, it is legal so long as I'm willing to make any other cake/website for them. (I'm LGBT myself, mind you, but that's beside the point).
Now if you make it so a Christian must make an LGBT themed creation for an LGBT person, then you are setting precedence that a Christian can go to an LGBT run business and force them to create something offensive to LGBT people.
Remember, free speech protects all speech, not just morally correct speech. Even literal nazis have a right to free expression. What people do not have a right to is a platform. You can't force groups or people to give platform to views they do not agree with, that's a violation of their first amendment rights.
Do you plan on answering the actual questions they've been asking you at some point or are you going to keep answering stuff they didn't ask?
Nobody asked if you’re lgbtq because it doesn’t matter. You keep professing it like it buys you credibility, but nobody is buying that you are a part of that group. It’s classic “as a black man, I think racism is okay” type of garbage. You reveal your true colours too easily.
But you’re again twisting the argument. “Black supremacy” would again be about hatred and “intolerance” much like “white supremacy” We cannot tolerate intolerance.
Free speech has limits, and you’re making a bad faith argument that it shouldn’t. We both know that you shouldn’t be allowed to yell “bomb” in an airport, just as you aren’t allowed to “lie under oath” nor allowed to say “I won’t serve you dinner because you’re handicapped” or “I won’t make you a cake because you are black”
So I’m done with the debate, you’ve moved to bad faith arguments because you just care about winning. You win. Have a nice day.