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I don't get why people think that any company for that matter would go to jail for a random dude online. They do hand over metadata and everything else is encrypted. Not even Proton can access that data. When served with a court order they have to hand it over. Now if it were GMail, they'd probably make a collage with your pics and share them. That's the difference.
Yeah but why would I pay for it?
Because, running such services costs money. And this is not a charitable organisation. GMail does this for free because they're making money off of you with ads and by selling your data.
I really don't get why this is so difficult to understand. Would you run a cafe offering free coffee?
I actually did something pretty similar for a year or so, and I expect my reasons would be incomprehensible to you.
Everybody has their reasons and it doesn't have to make sense to anyone else especially to a random person online like me. But just out of curiosity, what were you doing? If you don't mind sharing it.
It was a little more involved, and it's too identifiable.
Well if you can't mention it, then there's no debate.
I don't want a debate; I'm just telling you you're wrong, something very close to that and more involved does exist, I personally have executed on it, and you almost certainly wouldn't understand why I did it.
So you are wrong, the world is bigger than you think, and the example of what you thought was hyperbole is a thing someone who randomly saw your Lemmy comment had basically done before.
And that you have a poor grasp of what motivates people.
Lol. It's really difficult to take anything you say seriously anymore because you claim to have figured out everything about someone online with just a few sentences, basically classifying you along the lines of a troll. So I hope you succeed in your ventures and wish you a very happy new year.
I'm saying your horizons are too close and people, even insufferable assholes, are better than you apparently believe possible.
Don't collect data and there's nothing to handover https://mullvad.net/en/blog/mullvad-vpn-was-subject-to-a-search-warrant-customer-data-not-compromised
Basically comparing apples to oranges. Mullvad just does one thing or maybe two if you include the browser. Proton operates on a different scale. There's going to be some data generated if you expect to use the whole suite without running into issues. I'll accept your argument when mullvad operates on a similar scale with the same opsec.
I'm not buying 'they need data cos they offer more products'. The companies have made different choices in how they build their software.