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She has been arguing that, as a Christian, she should not have to follow state rules about judicial impartiality.

A Texas judge is asking a federal court to overturn marriage equality in the U.S., arguing in a lawsuit filed on Friday that marriage for same-sex couples is unconstitutional because it was legalized in a decision that “subordinat[ed] state law to the policy preferences of unelected judges.”

The case involves Judge Dianne Hensley of Waco, Texas, who has been involved in years of legal proceedings to try to win the right to not perform marriages for same-sex couples while still performing them for opposite-sex couples. She claims that, as a Christian, she should not have to follow state judicial ethics rules about impartiality.

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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 230 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

It seems completely logical to me that if a judge claims her Christianity is so vital to her being that she cannot perform duties that don't align with her Christianity then she cannot give fair and impartial judgments to anybody who is not also a Christian. Anybody of any religion that's not Christianity in her courtroom should call for her recusal. Anyone not Christian for whom she has made judgment should call for mistrals.

Not even to mention the fact that can she truly be impartial to other sects of Christianity?

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 135 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think if she wants to argue that Christianity is so central to her being that she cannot make impartial decisions, she should be permanently dismissed, as she is clearly not fit for the position. There are plenty of Christians out there capable of impartiality, she is the problem, not her religious preference.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm not entirely sure other Christians are capable of impartiality considering the long long history of Christians getting special treatment in our judicial system. You don't have to scratch the surface very hard to find a plethora of disgusting rulings that mentioned Christianity as a mitigating circumstance which allowed for lessened penalties.

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, don't get me wrong, the establishment of Christianity in the US is horribly corrupt. I suppose I'm arguing to judge these pieces of shit by their character, not their religion. I'm not even Christian, I just believe it's dangerous to start applying mass generalizations to any group of people. Religion has no place in justice, either in protecting or hurting someone's case.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago

Religious belief is a choice. There's no problem criticizing people for their choices.

[–] MOARbid1@piefed.social 11 points 3 months ago

At this point, I don’t trust anyone that is religious. It has been proven time and again that they will act in the interest of their god, over the interest of humanity.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah. I know Christians who can, but many can't. Like, how many Christians really understand that the justification to deny Alaskan native sovereignty was that they weren't Christians? I hold anti Christian sentiments, I've seen how they've oppressed everyone around them and cried foul at the sort of inconvenience they'd demand other religions experience.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

most of them think the same way, especially the evangelical types.

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There are plenty of Christians out there capable of impartiality

[citation needed]

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anthony Kennedy, one of the most influential supreme court justices in establishing gay rights in the US, was Catholic.

Harry Blackmun, the majority opinion writer for Roe v. Wade, was heavily involved in church and gave several sermons.

Despite what MAGA would have you believe, it is possible to be both Christian, and not a hateful asshole (though it seems to be getting more rare by the day).

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Excellent examples, thanks. Your last line nails on the head where my thoughts are at these days.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Prime Minister Paul Martin was excommunicated from his family church when he legalized same sex marriage some 20 years ago.

He also got the supreme court(of Canada) to rule on it first to head of Stephen Harper and PP(aka Milhouse) inevitable challenge of it.

Pierre Trudeau(Justin Trudeau's dad) was a practicing Roman Catholic when as Justice Minister when he legalized homosexuality almost 60 years ago.

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Excellent history lesson, cheers.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I did not know those facts, thank you. Whatever other flaws Paul Martin may have had, that took some personal conviction which I respect. And very astute of him to head off future challenges in that way.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More like many of them are capable of feigning impartiality, well at least you have juries. But I'm sure there's some fucker there as well to stack the decks when needed

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 3 points 3 months ago

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but isn't all impartiality a feint? No human is free of bias; at least if they do their best to act the part, it's better than the blatant, open, unashamed corruption going on in the government today. If a judge holds dumb personal biases but puts those aside to judge, that's not "feigning impartiality", that's doing their job. Because as I mentioned before, religion has no place in justice.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And any actually faithful Christian should call for her recusal as well, since she's clearly just using religion to justify her lack of impartiality, since the Bible very specifically states that the rules of God do not override the rules of the land and Christians should follow the Bible without either breaking the local laws or by trying to change them.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

A lot of Christians will. Evangelicals though. It's insane to me how Evangelicals will be the first to judge all Muslims for something like ISIS and then turn around and essentially want "Christian Sharia" in their own town. It's projection really. They want strict interpretation of religious laws but just for the laws that favor the existing structures of hierarchy.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

Right but if all the judges in the district are Christian, then people are denied services. So she's gotta be fired. There's no other option.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Given that nearly 1/3 of the population is not even xtian, that'd be pretty wild. And that's before, as you point out, you start considering other sects.