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Indie Game Awards Disqualifies Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Due To Gen AI Usage (insider-gaming.com)
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The Indie Game Awards took place on December 18, and, as many could assume, Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 took home the awards for Game of the Year and Debut Game. However, things have changed and The Indie Game Awards are making a big decision to strip the Clair Obscur and developer Sandfall Interactive of their awards over the use of gen AI in the game.

In an announcement made on Saturday afternoon, Six One Indie, the creators of the show, said that it’s removal comes after the discovery after voting was done, and the show was recorded.

“The Indie Game Awards have a hard stance on the use of gen AI throughout the nomination process and during the ceremony itself,” the statement reads. “When it was submitted for consideration, representatives of Sandfall Interactive agreed that no gen AI was used in the development of Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.

“In light of Sandfall Interactive confirming the use of gen AI on the day of the Indie Game Awards 2025 premiere, this does disqualify Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 from its nomination.”

Six One Indie ended by thanking the community for being patient and providing feedback on the situation.

“The organizational team behind the ceremony is a small crew with big ambitions, and The Indie Game Awards can only grow with your help and support,” they said. “We already can’t wait for the 2026 ceremony!”

With Clair Obscur’s disqualification, the awards will now go to the runner ups. That means the award for Debut Game goes to Sorry We’re Closed while Game of the Year now goes to Blue Prince.

What do you think of Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 being disqualified and having their awards stripped at The Indie Game Awards due to gen AI? Leave your thoughts down below and join the discussion in the official Insider Gaming Discord server.

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 68 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Leave your thoughts down below and join the discussion in the official Insider Gaming Discord server.

qin-shi-huangdi-fireball Unlimited Genocide on Discord and also The First World.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Discord sucks ass of course but it is also one of the only ways I can talk (like actually verbally speak) to most of my best friends. If you got an alternative I would love to hear it.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Matrix/Element is the main option, though I don't know if it covers all the same use cases as Discord. IIRC they added the voice room features, and Spaces act like Discord servers, so it should be similar.

It's not that Discord is conceptually bad, it's that it's a corporate scam meant to harvest your data and manipulate you for various other corporate and state interests.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Matrix is terrible though.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

IDK, Matrix works fine for me. I don't use all the features, though.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You get all the usual federation problems, but unlike with the fediverse I feel like there is basically no upside.

The cryptography is a complete nightmare UX wise. A lot of matrix clients also use an outdated, insecure and unsupported implementation of the crypto protocol (libolm).

The company behind matrix is shit, they have given up on the Matrix.org foundation and are only pursuing enterprise contacts.

In addition to the technical problems you get the moderation problems which results in mods telling users that there is really nothing the mods can do when users get CSAM dmed. This is a direct result from the federation model. It's not worth it.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You get all the usual federation problems, but unlike with the fediverse I feel like there is basically no upside.

You sign up for one Matrix account on your server of choice and it can be used to communicate with all accounts on every other server. You're not locked in to a single provider. That's the same upside as all the other federated platforms.

The cryptography is a complete nightmare UX wise.

If I click "reset", it wants to "Set up secure backup", which I don't want, because I don't need it. The benefit of using gitter for project communication is 0-overhead and working with my github-account. I don't want extra passwords, keyfiles or any of that.

This issue is just describing someone using it wrong on purpose. All they have to do is enable the encrypted backup (which is the default IIRC) and save the backup key, which they refuse to do. That solves all the problems with encrypted messages AFAIK. If they're just looking for a non-encrypted chat platform, they should use one.

In addition to the technical problems you get the moderation problems which results in mods telling users that there is really nothing the mods can do when users get CSAM dmed. This is a direct result from the federation model. It's not worth it.

No idea about this.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You sign up for one Matrix account on your server of choice and it can be used to communicate with all accounts on every other server. You're not locked in to a single provider. That's the same upside as all the other federated platforms.

The only accounts ever contacting me from other servers are all spam. I would much rather create one account per server that I'm interested in and chat with other people that have accounts on that server. This would allow for actual moderation too.

This issue is just describing someone using it wrong on purpose.

It's very difficult to setup correctly across multiple devices (because it doesn't work right half the time). "Set up secure backup" does nothing for the user in question. In practice basically all channels have encryption disabled and that information isn't prominently displayed.

No idea about this.

See the discussion here for example to get an idea of the scope of the problem

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First and foremost Matrix (through e.g. the client Element) and maybe Signal

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I am already on matrix. I meant more for voice chat

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Theres Mumble for VoIP.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The ideal would be to nationalize Discord and treat it as a public utility

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not even that. Just make it so that the discord API is fully published and people can make third party clients approved by TOS. Most of my issue with discord is that their proprietary client is literally unusable for me due to overstimulation, adware, and confusing settings and non existent features (not to mention the resource hog and just recently functioning Linux support)

But of course that would take away from the main business model of being a lifestyle brand for very saavy gamers and people after work who have no where to go but online. The porkies know that software made for humans and not capital doesnt get them their megayacht.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Retvrn to having teamspeak ventrilo and mumble installed at the same time for different clans/guilds

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Element and thus Schildichat has voice chat implemented quite well, not sure if they still use Jitsi