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In a study published on Monday by the peer-reviewed journal Patterns, data scientist Alex de Vries-Gao estimated the carbon emissions from electricity used by AI at between 33 million and 80 million metric tons.

That higher figure would put it above last year's totals for Chile (78m tons), Czechia (78m tons), Romania (71m tons), and New York City (48m tons, including both CO2 and other greenhouse gases).

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Is this actually true?

A lot of people dont think there is a big impact of using llms vs having a gaming pc or heating your house...its just another waste of the modern world that humanity will figure out how to manage, like rebuilding the grid (which has to be done anyway)

Let me clarify, I hate llms and every corporation pushing this shit, but let's be sure we are getting mad about correct data.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Last time I saw numbers, the power requirements of 100,000 ChatGPT responses equates to the same energy usage at the server end as one person watching 1 hour of Netflix.

A gaming PC typically has a GPU that pulls between 200-300W when running a AAA game, plus the 90W for the CPU being stressed, plus another 100 for other system components. Add 45-60W for your monitor as well.

Gaming takes a lot of power.

Running a Local LLM using the same GPU, you need about 10 seconds of just the GPU and supporting haddware energy, versus how many hours you're running a game. Gaming is more environmentally damaging that AI is.

The reason these big scary numbers are here is because all that energy usage is collected in one spot. If we added up everyone's individual gaming habits, it might make datacenter energy usage look small in comparison.

The only real difference is the datacenters using open liquid cooling instead of air or closed loop, which the latter two are much more environmentally ideal.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

It's the training that consumes the electricity, not the outright usage.

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