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Former Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith told lawmakers in a closed-door interview on Wednesday that his team of investigators “developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt” that President Donald Trump had criminally conspired to overturn the results of the 2020 election, according to portions of his opening statement obtained by The Associated Press.

He also said investigators had accrued “powerful evidence” that Trump broke the law by hoarding classified documents from his first term as president at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, and by obstructing government efforts to recover the records.

“I made my decisions in the investigation without regard to President Trump’s political association, activities, beliefs, or candidacy in the 2024 election,” Smith said. “We took actions based on what the facts and the law required — the very lesson I learned early in my career as a prosecutor.”

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Jack Smith is not the problem.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Like I say I have no real idea whose culpability applies exactly where and to what degree.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-special-counsels-probe-trumps-efforts-overturn-2020/story?id=101537003

So Merrick Garland shit the bed by, apparently, just doing nothing at all FROM JANUARY 2021 UNTIL NOVEMBER OF 2022. Then Jack Smith gets involved.

And then we're still talking to the grand jury in JUNE OF 2023. At that point, Jack Smith was involved, and had been for almost a year.

THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE

HOW DID THEY NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT ACCOMPLISHING THIS SHIT IN TIMELY FASHION WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GETTING IVANKA FUCKING TRUMP TO TESTIFY OR NOT

I am sorry for yelling, but it's just a bunch of shit. It's important, one of the most important things for the world that could have happened between 2021 and 2025, and it was their job, and they fucked it up and slow-walked it, and we're all paying because of their dog shit ness.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I hear you, it’s just the case that legal processes take a really long time. This is where they should have looked like they were cutting corners, but judges are their own political party and they don’t like rushing things.

It wouldn’t be an issue if republicans respected the rule of law, but they absolutely do not.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is where they should have looked like they were cutting corners, but judges are their own political party and they don’t like rushing things.

Yes, but there are cases where things get hurried along. Judges grant emergency orders all the time for particular reasons. There are plenty of important cases that manage to take less than four years when it's fucking important.

They thought they could take their time and do things "normal" and complete, because Trump wouldn't come near power again. It was obvious even at the time that that was stupid and wrong, and failing to treat it as an emergency on par with September 11th or something was a massive fuckup born of complacency and timidity.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

No one ever went broke underestimating the American public, as they say.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This just the same miserable excuse we were getting for inaction at the time. There were no excuses for it then, there are no excuses for it now, and engaging in excuse making for the failures of the Biden administration is exemplary of the definitive failure of liberalism.

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit. He could've been plainspoken like this at any time, but he played coy about it instead out of some misguided sense of "norms" or "decorum" or whatever, despite having a front row seat to the slow-walking and obstruction and willful feigned ignorance of those above and around him.

He could've made the plain fact of Trump's guilt impossible to ignore, but he didn't. That means he shares the guilt. Is it the majority of it? No. But there's plenty to go around, and it is some.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Wtf are you talking about. Being “plainspoken like this” before trial is a great way to lose at trial. That’s why prosecutors don’t ever do it. Ffs.