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[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Or the live footage of the genocides elsewhere in the world are more attention grabbing than secret videos

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's true, things filmed in secret in China that apparently fit western narratives are extremely unpopular, that's why I didn't have a picture of tank man on the wall of my history classroom in high school and people don't constantly repost the still frame on Reddit.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

or the secret videos didn't reveal much

or are you suggesting there really is a secret uigher genocide even when the west walked back its claims to "cultural genocide" and literally a single fucking look at Xinjiang would show what a load of shit that is

[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I'm only talking about why it's not in this news cycle anymore, not the validity of the claim. I'm agreeing with you old video footage isn't as attention grabbing as a live stream of bombs being dropped. Also I see conflicting things both when this was hot in the medial cycle and no I'm going to Xinjiang to figure it out myself.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Others have. It ain't happening

[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Glad we could clear that up for ya

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

so you're saying yes you believe in a fictitious genocide, lol

[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Y'all are interesting when did I say I believe that? I just said it's not in the new cycle because something else is happening and is being documented better. And y'all are acting like I'm personally leading an invasion of Beijing.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

lmfao what are you even on

the answer is yes you believe in the uigher genocide and then also whatever is going on here projection

[–] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Another radlib stooge of the empire

[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Conversationally questioning one perspective on one person's statement makes me stooge of one of the evil empires?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is China an "evil empire" because of a genocide in Xinjiang, or are you bothered by some other high effort, no benefit, no evidence crime (that definitely really happened)?

[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Bro what? I was referring to America(or anyone who forcibly takes control of an already self-governed region). Y'all are unhinged where am I criticizing the ccpr?

[–] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

People are jumping on you because you're from dbzer0, an instance which we have learned to mistrust (rightfully). I'm gonna play the good guy role and try to bridge this gap for your sake and for the sake of everyone reacting to this.

Your statement follows this logic: the attention videos get (and implicitly, the journalism surrounding it) is related to the viewer experience of that video (its attention grabbing-ness), and impacts how widely it is spread or cared about.

People attacking are pointing to a specific difference in argumentation; mainly, that the amount of attention videos get is directly relates to 2 factors: 1 how real the contents can be proven to be and 2 how much the media system pushes them.

So the claims of those arguing against you are that you are implicitly ignoring the reality which 2 different media represent (Palestinian Genocide vs Uighur Genocide) and collapsing that into 1 dimension. This implies that you find the events relatively equal in reality but with different levels of attention-grabbingness in the specific video-content. Idk if you meant to do this (and I will assume for now that you didn't) but it's a common trope libs use to equate the 2 and act like "2 things can both be bad" while only 1 of them has systemic support.

The other point that you implicitly miss (again, I'm assuming you're good-natured so it's just miscommunication) is that the filter which media sets up is much stronger than many of us realize. The Chinese guy's fame and the video's impact is almost entirely pushed by a western media system independent of any individual interest from readers (aside from that created through adding more (fake, in this case) context). Once it was no longer useful, that media apparatus threw him away actively, not just to replace him with Palestinians. Palestinian videos are homemade and rarely featured in Western-Media systems without added (fake, again) context which attempts to discount them. The success of Palestinian videos is almost entirely due to Palestinian efforts and individual sympathies outside of Palestine.

Because of these 2 major differences in concept you communicated versus what is more important in material reality, people are assuming you're a chud.

I'm gonna upvoter your comment though because I am assuming you meant well and just noticed how shitty the quality and content of the Xinjiang video is. And how Palestinians documenting their own genocide do it much better, and so people are clearly interested.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe if the Chinese genocide resulted in any deaths (with the resulting dead bodies) it would've been more attention grabbing. That's the problem with the genocides that don't kill anyone. The world just doesn't care.

Edit: There's a tinge (at least) of antisemitism to your comment. The worst genocide in the history of humanity was committed by the west, in relatively recent history. Eastern Europe is littered with the bodies of those jews (and Roma, and gays, and slavs...). These people were killed to protect the private profits of a handful of rich westerners. Now you're invoking the horrors of the holocaust to make a bogus accusation against China because China is a threat to the private profits of a handful of rich westerners. You're using the mass deaths of the holocaust, again, to benefit the rich. But here's the problem for you personally. There's no heaps of dead bodies in China, and you know there should be. You know what you're saying is bullshit. You don't care about the reality of genocide at all. For you genocide is good, because it gives you a rhetorical tool to use against the enemies of your favorite rich people.

[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Are you talking to someone else? Because I didn't say anything about the Holocaust. I wasn't talking about the validity of anything.

All I was trying to say was that because we can see what's happening in Palestine and in Sudan this fell out of most people's range of attention. What about that is anti-semitic? How am I even criticizing the ccpr? When did I call anything happening in China a genocide? Taking a comment about The new cycle in writing a rant accusing me of Holocaust denial is unhinged. Maybe step away from the keyboard and find a way to self-regulate.