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[–] misk@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

EU as an organisation isn’t equipped to deal with stuff like this, because it wasn’t ever meant to. We don’t have a common foreign policy or even a common budget, yet we expect it to deal militarily with a war between two non-members. I’m not saying this to take a stab at EU. EU does what it can with competencies it has. Individual states passing the buck to EU is just convenient way of not doing much at all unfortunately.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, you said that already. Then I responded. Replying to my response just to repeat what you said before, as if I hadn't already responded addressing it, doesn't add too much.

In particular, you saying "between two non-members" means you completely missed a big part of my message. Try searching for "Poland" and "Estonia" to help you find the relevant part. Or maybe just read the whole thing and then respond to the new thing instead of repeating.

Edit: Actually, one other point: So I don't really care whether the EU response comes within the structure of EU government, or within the structure of the individual governments involved that are part of the EU. My point is, they should be responding more than they are. If the individual governments decided to talk outside of the building that houses the EU offices, and decided to start blowing up these fighters that violate their airspace with their individual militaries, that would be fine to me. That was sort of what I meant in talking about the HOA, but maybe that way of explaining it fleshes it out in a little more detail.