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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has reaffimed his firm refusal to cede any territory, resisting U.S. pressure for a painful compromise with Russia as he continued to rally European support for Ukraine.

“Undoubtedly, Russia insists for us to give up territories. We, clearly, don’t want to give up anything. That’s what we are fighting for,” Zelenskyy said in a WhatsApp chat late Monday in which he answered reporters’ questions.

“Do we consider ceding any territories? According to the law we don’t have such right. According to Ukraine’s law, our constitution, international law, and to be frank, we don’t have a moral right either.”

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The point is to say Ukraine won’t accept Trump’s plan so they’re at fault.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which is fucking stupid conclusion because UA doesn't have to do anything, much less accept a bad "plan."

The onus has always been on Russia and no amount of feet stomping from the toddler in chief is going to change that fact.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Americans are the dumbest people on the planet, it’ll be enough for them to accept dropping support.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dont know about dumbest, but they're definitely up there. The Russians are pretty fucking stupid too. Just a savage horde of drunk, inbred meat for the grinder, too stupid to take out Putin and stop their fathers, brothers, uncles, sons, and grandsons from being sent to the front line to be chewed up by drones.

[–] III@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an American, I am just smart enough to want my MAGA fathers, brothers, uncles, sons and grandsons to be meat grinded. They only learn when it affects them directly.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If your focus is solely on the MAGA cult instead of the oligarch cult leaders, "just smart enough" might be a little generous.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Americans are bankrolling the Ukrainian defense and extracting enormous concessions from Zelensky as a result.

The longer the war drags on, and the more debt Ukraine assumes in the process, the less sovereignty they'll maintain in the aftermath.

The stupidest kids in the room right now are the folks at the Russia/Ukraine border who traded in their sovereignty (and often their lives) over an ethnic pissing contest. American investors are going to come out of this flush. Taxpayers are eating the same shit sandwich as everyone else in NATO.