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Not 100% sure, but vegetarians probably have no problem with lard or any other animal derived products. Literally the only animal product they don't use is meat.
They don't eat animal cellular material, or anything that you need to kill an animal for. That includes fat cells and blood cells, but does not include a secreted matrix like milk or honey.
The longest and most widespread of the vegetarian traditions avoids eggs as well as meat, seeing ovivory as karmically deleterious. This is why Indian food commonly uses dairy like ghee and paneer but rarely uses eggs.
(western) vegetarians are usually OK with things that animals are killed for, as long as no parts of the dead body remain in the food. i think the idea is that "technically, it could be possible to make this without killing anyone, therefore it counts as not killing anyone" which is why lard is out but butter is OK.
i wonder if you could convince a vegetarian to eat a Maasai-like diet of blood and milk, since blood, just like milk, technically can be extracted without killing, therefore making all blood vegetarian.
I was actually thinking about that specific case of blood as food too, that's why I ended up saying "cells" rather than "tissues".
not in my experience, might be regional
Vegetarians don't eat dairy and eggs where you live?
no, that isn't what i said, we were talking about things that require the animal to die
Lard is animal fat tissue, not a secretion, but an actual animal derived product.
There are different reasons why people become vegetarian or vegan: religious, moral, health, taste, cost. The particular reason will govern how strict someone is, but by and large lard is out.
Leather is also a direct product of killing an animal and plenty of vegetarians will defend using it.
Yep, Vegetarians and vegans are not a single org with unified reasons or bounds. Some people merely eat a vegetarian diet, some people try to abstain from all animal products including honey, beeswax, leather, dyes, glues, shells, some medicicinal binders, etc.
It is impossible to avoid ALL animal byproducts or exploitation in the modern age, however. One must draw the line somewhere: do you salvage a corpse you encounter on a hike, do you use chalk or concrete, do you have a phone with a camera, do you eat coconuts, do you support certain types of criminal forensics, do you wear tattoos, etc?
Yes, and veganism is the only one I consider worth a damn.
Vegetarians don't eat lard. Similar to how they also don't eat parmiagiano reggiano because it uses rennet.
They won't eat this one cheese because cows are killed, but they'll eat all all the other cheeses cows are killed for. Similarly, I doubt they make any real effort to not eat lard.
Based on what? I don't know any vegetarians who eat lard. I'm answering based on my knowledge of vegetarians. Why just randomly assert that vegetarians eat lard?
I don't expect vegetarians to be consistent in any way. If your entire ideology is "animals killed for meat: 😡animals killed for any other reason: 😊" I don't deem you trustworthy when it comes to avoiding animal products.
No one's arguing about vegetarian consistency or whatever. People are just saying that, empirically, observably, vegetarians do not eat lard, because it is meat, or considered meat, whatever.
I don't eat things made with lard. Some vegetarians eat cheese, but they likely aren't picking and choosing based on morals. Those who abstain and vegans aren't picking and choosing what to include either.
Yep, they sure as hell aren't.