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[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm not one to defend American stupidity, life is too short, but it should be remembered that potatoes are vegetarian but chips, proper chips, are often cooked in beef dripping, which would make them non-vegetarian.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

A lot of the flavoured chips have milk powder sprinkled on them too.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unless you're at a 100% vegan restaurant if you're worried about oils touching then just don't eat fried food, ever. I promise you they are not reserving a commercial deep fryer just to keep it vegan and, even if they're supposed to be doing that, the workers aren't

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In most non-US countries, frying fat is almost always vegan unless it's butter (but you wouldn't deep-fry in butter). US fast food deep frying potato fries in beef fat is globally unusual.

And "worried about oils touching" is being deliberately obtuse. We're not talking about cross-contamination. We're talking about actual frying in animal fat. That is widely considered not vegetarian and I imagine in most countries where "vegetarian" is a regulated term, you aren't allowed to call food vegetarian if it was fried in animal fat.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

In most non-US countries, frying fat is almost always vegan unless it's butter (but you wouldn't deep-fry in butter). US fast food deep frying potato fries in beef fat is globally unusual.

McDonald's using beef tallow doesn't matter though because here's how it works. You fill a commercial deep fryer with like 70Ib of oil. That oil can be vegan, it's probably canola oil, but guess what? As soon as they fry some chicken nuggets or tenders in there, they're rendering out a shitload of schmaltz, and that chicken fat is now going to cook and flavor everything.

If you're fine with that cool but if you're a vegan who is bothered by that then I'm just trying to inform people that "the vegan option of French fries" still isn't going to be vegan because unless it's a fucking vegan restaurant they're going to be contaminating that oil with animal products.

Don't call me obtuse you fucking nerd

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah what you're describing is completely different to frying in lard. And I imagine most fast food places have separate fryers for potato fries specifically because people are vegetarian—but in any case, what you're describing is not what's being discussed.

Don’t call me obtuse you fucking nerd

Seems like quite the overreaction but ok. Don't call me a nerd while we're at it?

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You're acting like you're the person i initially commented on

And I imagine most fast food places have separate fryers for potato fries specifically because people are vegetarian

Your imagination is wrong sorry

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

You’re acting like you’re the person i initially commented on

I don't think I am. I'm saying that most vegans/vegetarians consider something being fried in lard vs cross-contamination to be separate categories. That's not to say that they're all ok with cross-contamination, but just that many of them treat the two very differently. I don't think it's difficult to understand why.