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SearxNG instances are not working as well these days and I want something more reliable. I will just pay a subscription. Swiss cows is pushing subscriptions and I'm good with paying. Never tried Kagi.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I personally love Kagi. Any time I have to use something else, it now feels painful.

[–] dragbone@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 days ago

I agree but it is way too expensive for me. I use more than 10 searches per day and I'm not paying 10$ per month for search.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same. Questionable leadership but a very solid platform.

[–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What's up with the leadership?

[–] natecox@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Well, there was the inclusion of the Brave and Yandex indexes which ruffled some feathers for sure, but I personally lost faith in Vlad as decent human when they outright refused to add a widget linking to suicide prevention resources to searches regarding suicide because they would introduce “moral bias”.

Adding a widget for suicide prevention hotline on top of 'how to kill yourself' result would be manifestation of one such bias - in this case moral - meaning, human interference into search results for moral reasons.

https://kagifeedback.org/d/865-suicide-results-should-probably-have-a-dont-do-that-widget-like-google

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They support Yandex from Russia

[–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it through direct financial transfers or do they use it as another search engine?

Do you happen to know in what way yandex is affiliated with the regime?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Thank you. Vlads reply is a bit weird, especially since there is other topics that show yandex poisoning "good search".

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Users deserve access to the best possible information, not information filtered through our political lens.

Except "the best possible information" is filtered. That's the whole point of a search engine is to 1.Find and 2.Filter. If your search engine is turning up Russian propaganda, that is NOT "the best possible information".

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

any nation's major search engine is going to be turning up propaganda.

imo it's better to include it & state where it came from so people can discern.

personally i don't believe the entire population of any country are all bad people and increasingly siloing global citizens from eachother is only going to increase the kinds of toxic nationalism which dangerous regimes use as fuel

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a difference between disbelieving an entire nation of people and disbelieving a state-sponsored propaganda factory.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

which is why i'd say clearly identify the source so people can discern.

afaict if you want to fairly criticise kagi its for not moving fast enough on adding clear source referencing & adding methods for users to filter out source types.

is there something i'm missing? are there other reasons to suspect bad faith on kagi's part?