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[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Car culture is just so sad

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 17 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, how dare people have interests that don’t align with my own!

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Tbh I look down on any hobby that's just about owning things

If you work on your own cars cool and neat but if you don't they're just really big funko pops

And like I never bring this up to anyone cause I do me best to not be a dickwad but I can't help but feel a little digusted by collecting hobbies

Idk

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think how I feel about collecting hobbies depends immensely on what is being collected and how it is used. If someone is collecting old books and actually reading them, then even if they buy $10,000 books, as long as they aren't trying to show it off on the basis of price - I have zero issue with such a thing.

Like it's fine if they want to show off that the book is really rare, explain why it's rare, how hard if was to find, what's special about it, etc. And then if as a result of that I can infer it must have been expensive, I'm not grossed out. But if they come at from the angle of "this book is 10 grand and that's why you should be impressed by it and transitively be impressed by me", that's nasty and pisses me off.

I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with collection-based hobbies, although I do think that in general they are not really impressive hobbies and should not be misinterpreted as a skill or something to be "proud of". But I think this is just a conflation being made because the word "hobby" does too much double duty nowadays. We use it to describe things that are simple, as well as things that are complex; impressive and unimpressive, skilled and unskilled, creative and consumption. "Hobby" usually just means literally anything I regularly do that isn't required of me. And as a result it carries baggage from it's various applications in between themselves, like using the same spoon for your curry and your soup and your ice cream.

If we taboo that word, then I think people collecting things is freed from hobby-connotations like:

  • "this is something for me to be proud of"
  • "this is something that makes me an impressive person"
  • "this is something that demonstrates a skill or ability beyond that of the uninitiated"

And we can see collecting for what it is: nothing more than liking a thing, and wanting to have it around to admire/contemplate/use. I think collecting can be a very respectable demonstration of someone understanding what is important to themselves, and in being able to take joy in simple things or the same things over and over. The dark side of collection is obviously hoarding, void-filling, status-signaling, addictive behavior. But the light-side of it is cherishing things that being you joy, putting them somewhere where you regularly appreciate and protect them, sharing that joy with others. It can be very humble, vulnerable, and in fact can be very anti consumerist/hoarding/void-filling/status-signaling.

Like anything, I think it's all in the way it's done. But I don't think you need to be working on something or demonstrating a skill with it, or producing something, in order for the collecting to be respectable.

i once had my town's largest collection of Jack In the Box antenna toppers (i had 4) and am personally and deeply offended by this statement

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The moment your culture makes you feel any kind of superiority or entitlement to make others feel bad it becomes a problem, no matter the source of those feelings or who it's directed at.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean, this is Lemmy---practically everyone here feels superior to folks who use Twitter/reddit/Meta products/etc.

(Only half /s with this one...)

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As a veteran of all these spaces, I feel like Lemmy feels superior for being what reddit was circa 2007, a small, underground but tight-knight community of free-agents and strong, independent thinkers. With less underage sexual abuse material. (As far as I know.)

It's funny because despite being a site that seems to openly take pride in being further left than reddit, a lot of the people are the exact same people that they hated in reddit; a lot of isolated white male young american gamers with poor social experience, so left to its own devices this site would become a carbon-copy of reddit, warts and all.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

~~feels~~ is superior

FTFY. ;)

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, I think it's less about people having interests that I don't, and more about just the realistic car culture. There are people who are into cars in a cool, healthy way. But in my experience, the majority of them ARE sad, empty people who don't know who they are, and are trying to buy a personality, who think having money makes them good and that showing their money via their car to others makes others perceive them as good. They are often very childish people trying to impress others and fill some kind of void in themselves that they don't know how to fill. I say this knowing at least 5 pretty intense "car guys". It IS very sad to observe, and they don't even seem to enjoy their "hobby" (which really just consists of inventing new reasons to spend more money) themselves. It's just a continual race to one-up your friends cars, get more likes on Instagram, or emulate something they saw on YouTube, or reconfigure something, or trade this car for a different car, like a high-rpm hedonic treadmill. Just objectively speaking, these people all seem pretty depressed. Admittedly they have other shared traits that make my sample not rigorous. But even the common social conception of car people seems to agree. A lot of them are obnoxious losers, even their own community has a whole bunch of archetypes that they agree are obnoxious losers.

I think there are many very cool ways to be into cars. It's just than the majority of people who are actually into cars, are not into them in those cool ways. It's like how playing a guitar, fundamentally and intrinsically, is a pretty cool interest to have...but if 70% of guitar players you know are lonely shells of people with underdeveloped personalities who only started playing guitar to flex their wealth on others and because they thought it would make girls want to fuck them - you might say "guitarist culture is sad".

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

I don’t mind car culture. But I absolutely loathe gun culture, which is sadly a big thing around where I live.