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Has there ever been a viable alternative to the phsycialist model of the universe? (sh.itjust.works)
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Physicalism or materialism. The idea that everything there is arises from physical matter. If true would mean there is no God or Free Will, no immortal soul either.

Seems to be what most of academia bases their world view on and the frame work in which most Science is done.

Often challenged by Dualism and Idealism but only by a loud fringe minority.

I've heard pan-psychicism is proving quite the challenge, but I hear that from people who believe crystals can cure autism

I hear that "Oh actually the science is moving away from materialism" as well, but that seems to be more crystal talk as well.

So lemme ask science instead of google.

Any reason to doubt physicalism? Is there anything in science that says "Huh well that seems to not have any basis in the physical at all and yet it exists"

Edit: I have heard of the Essentia Foundation and Bernado Kastrup but since it's endorsed by Deepak Chopra I'm not sure I can trust it

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think people are completely misunderstanding me. I am fully aware that optical illusions exist, I don't see how that has any relevance to what I'm actually saying.

How do you know what colors they really are? You know by making more detailed observations than you might at first glance, for example, by zooming in. What exactly is that meant to demonstrate?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a whole bunch of different people are all misunderstanding you in the same way at the same time then the obvious explanation is that you're failing to communicate clearly

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I encourage you to go to a honky tonk and try to explain Marxism to people and see if you still feel that way afterwards.

Refer to anything that I actually said and show how you could logically draw the conclusions you made about my positions from that.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I could absolutely explain Marxism to people at a honky tonk, wouldn't be any harder than explaining Marxism to people in any other location. Already did that once, keep up

[–] UNY0N@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think either of us is getting anything out of this conversation. Let's just leave it, ok?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure what the point of this was then.

[–] UNY0N@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Finally, something we agree on.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

I haven't seen anything we disagree on.