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[-] all-knight-party@kbin.cafe 11 points 1 year ago

Depends on if the character's supposed to be a self insert. In a game with deep customization you may be trying to make yourself, and not playing as Lara Croft or Geralt, so being able to choose your pronouns helps immersion, and immersion's a big deal to many players who'll take it anywhere they can get it in a game, whether it's pronouns, or being able to see your torso and feet when you look down.

Huh, I guess I never want to insert myself because I'm not that interesting. :) I play games to escape myself, and I really hate seeing my own name show up in games.

But that's probably more my personality (I hate being publicly praised) than anything else.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

But that’s probably more my personality (I hate being publicly praised) than anything else.

Revisit this thought whenever you consider if other people "really care" about something that you don't instead of questioning whether inclusion is ever "necessary".

That's fair.

It's just not something I have experience with. Even my wife, who likes public validation, also prefers to role play in games.

But that's the great thing about most RPGs, they have options to get whatever character model you want. So whether I understand people wanting to play as themselves or not is irrelevant. You can make your character look like yourself, I can make my character look random, and a trans person can make their character look like they see themselves. How I choose to make my character look has no impact on anyone else's experience.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

How I choose to make my character look has no impact on anyone else’s experience.

Tell that to the idiots making mods like this. Not that it changes anything for anyone but themselves, but it does promote bullshit bigotry over a menu selection of all things and fully deserves to be shut down.

And none of this is about "public validation". It's about having even just one more avenue for people that don't happen to be cis white males to make a character for themselves that's more relatable. More options should always be welcome. It hurts nobody and lifts up many.

Yup, I agree. The mods exist to push a narrative and make others angry, that's it.

I could understand if Bethesda made the MC trans with no way to change that, but expanding role play options is never a bad thing IMO.

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