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[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think the one thing the dumbass "abundance" movement gets right is that we don't get progress without realizing that racist and transphobic people also need to be convinced.

Not in the brain dead "well, we need to run some pro life Democrats" kind of way. Obviously.

But, "the left" is too focused on criticizing the masses volnerable to their own stupidity. If we learn one thing from the DemSocs we should learn that "Sewer Socialism" gets you the masses you need.

We need to accept that racist, sexist, and transphobic people also want child care. They also want healthcare. Socialism will not come about once we make everyone lose their bigotries.

The difference is that the left does not have to make concessions to the right as liberals constantly have to. We can and should be strong when trans rights are threatened. But we don't have to use them as a talking point when it's convenient. We can address the material problems that Capitalism causes and notm compromise on our comrades.

The America we live in, doesn't see change without an uneducated racist white guy acting selfishly and following the group that offers his family healthcare.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago

This is so true. Look at Mamdani - he never apologizes for his stances, but all he talks about are freeze rents, free buses, free childcare, and how the rich are going to pay for it

We need to learn to shut the fuck up about praxis and work the material conditions. We need to win and loudly make things better, and win the trust of the common people

We need their trust, not their understanding. And it's enough if they just learn to shut up about their bigotry, even just because every time they bring it up everyone glares at them

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Republicans have voted lockstep every election. Democrats cannibalize each other. The end result is the republican party as a whole keeps shifting further right because theyre going to vote as a bloc anyway whereas the left cant even agree that keeping a fascist out of power should be a good start.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

OK, but only if the bigots promise to go vegan. ^/s^