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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally I have found authority in America to be stupid, abusive, incompetent or all 3. Do you live somewhere else?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Police officers and FBI directors are broadly stupid, abusive and incompetent, but that doesn't encompass all authority.

You face authority every day. You follow systems and rules and contracts so that society functions. You use traffic laws. You don't shoot people who make you mad, you don't write bad checks or walk out of stores without paying. You are under a system of authority whether or not you agree with the values and enforcement of the people who enforce these rules.

I'm fine with throwing out the leadership and officers who enforce the laws, but we HAVE to have rules and laws, and this includes safety issues like speeding. I don't care what motivates you to follow these rules, as long as you do, because I am also on the road.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't need a system of law not to shoot people or walk out without paying. Some of us have ethics. I have found authority in America broadly garbage from bottom to top. It's not just the top that is fucked.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don’t need a system of law not to shoot people or walk out without paying. Some of us have ethics.

I cannot take your word for that, even if it's true, I cannot trust everyone, and even if someone is a good person, every human is vulnerable to emotions and failures of judgement, so yes we do need laws and rules and nothing can change that short of some system of taking away everyone's free will. I already said that the enforcers as, top to bottom, are a separate issue.