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You guys should email the NYPost and show your disappointment. Maybe, if enough people emailed them and showed them how you, the readers, do not agree with the way they do things, they would change it.
Obligatory: fuck cars. I am of the opinion that cars might just have been our worst idea.
Cars are fine. Car dependence is not. If you say something broad like "cars might just have been our worst idea" someone will simply point to the cases where it's unambiguously helpful such as ambulances, fire trucks, etc. and dismiss you entirely - along with dismissing the idea of walkable cities
I disagree. Cars are not fine. First, when people say cars, they are referring to civilian cars, not transportation cars.
Regardless, you are committing a fallacy. "In some cases, cars are helpful, therefore, cars are not our worst idea". A very simple way of showing that your conclusion is false is by just giving an example of having just 2 ideas, 1 of which is obviously worse than the other, even though that worse idea has some pros. Sorry, I know this is pedantic, but I just wanted to point out the fallacy first, in general terms.
But now to your point itself. Say we never invented cars and let's also say that that implies no ambulances (which it does not, we could have ambulances in a sort of public transport, ram ambulances, bike ambulances, etc). The amount of deads that cars cause is orders of magnitude larger than the amount of reads that ambulances save. I don't have data on this, I think everyone agrees with this. So, still, net positive.
So yes, I will repeat. Cars might just have been the worst idea we have ever had.
NYPost does not care about what their readers think. Their only job is to push a certain agenda. It is a propaganda rag.
Whoosh
Cars feel like a great solution to a relatively niche problem that got forcibly applied to several other problems for the sake of money.
Still, email them. Preferable the writers themselves as well. Show them your disappointment. Tell them they are actively worsening society. Ask them how they can sleep at night. Make a good argument.