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Back in my days, the good ol' 90s they at least had the decency to made up some fake testimony about Iraqis pulling babies out of incubators.

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[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My venezuelan neighbor supports her and wishes for a "quick and painless regime change". Idk how to explain to her this has never happened in the history of US interventionism when she keeps saying "its possible"... 😫

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

Your first mistake was trying to get a gusano to not be a gusano

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Quick and painless, that's what that offshore navy is for

The f-22s are there to drop confetti and notes of congratulation

[–] MarxMadness@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Focusing on "this has never happened before" might be a good way to avoid getting bogged down in the merits of the current government (a far broader topic), whatever plan is being proposed, etc.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i mean a) I don't know anything about maduro, chavez or the government before b) i am of the opinion germans should have less opinions and I shouldn't crackersplain her country to her

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

fun fact but googling "UN rapporteur Venezuela sanctions" looking for the name of the guy who went in like 2016 shows a bunch of articles from the 2020s with an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT rapporteur sent to Venezuela. I don't know her background, but the first guy was a Harvard educated ghoul

Know what they both had to say? THE SANCTIONS ARE KILLING PEOPLE. THE SANCTIONS ARE STARVING PEOPLE. WITHOUT THE SANCTIONS THINGS MIGHT NOT BE GREAT, BUT THEY ARE UNEQUIVOCALLY DOING MURDER.

The sanctions from the same country whose official government has official records stating the explicit intent of sanctions on Cuba is to STARVE PEOPLE and force them to overthrow the government.

That should tell you all you need to know really.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's all true and you can find politicians saying the intentions are starving the people into causing an uprising in Venezuela (not just Cuba or Iran) - but it's not all you need to know - the running of PVDSA has a very complex history and there were certainly elements of economic mismanagement in Maduro's time as well as Chavez. If however countries were open to helping Venezuela with oil refining and subsidy strategy rather than destroying it to get control of their oil, there would be a different outcome.

there were certainly elements of economic mismanagement in Maduro's time as well as Chavez

and the rapporteurs say all that but then state in no uncertain terms "it's the sanctions killing people"