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I'm not a capitalist, the amount of freedom I'd have if I lived in the PRC would increase dramatically. Despite popular misconception, we do have a good idea of what goes on in China. They have english-speaking news like CGTN, their processes are observed and reported on, and if you believe personal testemonies it's actually fantastic:
The problem is that western media obfuscates or slanders a lot of this reporting. It's a much more insidious form of censorship, it pretends it doesn't exist. China controls and censors the speech of capitalists and wreckers, yes, and this is approved by the vast majority.
I dont think even you would agree that china is democratic tho.. not to say the west are perfect democracies, and the data u provided reflects people thoughts.. the china one raises some questions..
China is democratic, though. Why do you say they aren't? They elect officials, have large feedback polls and national suggestions for Five Year Plans, and there are local and regional governments with their own autonomy. Popular support in China is well-documented.
Peoples satisfaction isnt a metric of democracy, are a lot of people happy with chinas government? Maybe, minorities certainly arent tho But the reason its undemocratic is that there isnt really anything to challenge the CCP or its policies, and dissent is punished and censored, people have historically been happy under monarchs, but doesnt make them democratic..
This is just baby's first Chinabad shit with zero sources and completely ignoring the real data that countermands it.
Democracy means rule by the majority. Ethnic minorities are happy with China, I have no idea what you're referring to here. You keep making vague, unbacked statements like this, or saying "personal testemony isn't pretty," but when given actual evidence of the opposite you try to say it doesn't matter.
The CPC's policies come from the bottom up, and are implemented from the top-down. The CPC has over 100 million members, and itself is democratically run. This is a socialist democracy, not one of competing parties but one focused on cooperation and cohesion. Capitalists and fascist dissenters are punished and censored, just like socialists and communists are in capitalist countries. The difference is class based, which is why Chinese citizens love their system while westerners hate theirs.