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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If you think you can bike in any weather, you haven't biked enough 😅. There's absolutely limits. Regardless, you don't need to carry a change of clothes when you use your car.

Fuel costs are only that significant in ICE cars. And unless cities stop supporting cars, parking is not a problem.

I now live in a city where lots of people bike even throughout winter. It's simply the most convenient way to move around short distances.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Shrug. I've bicycled in snowy weather, heavy rain, heat waves, days without light, and so on. I think there's absolutely something like a "skill issue" there. I bicycle everyday.

I don't change clothes either when I bicycle.

And no, fuel costs are pretty much significant in every car. I paid €200 on bicycle maintenance over ... 10 years.

If you drive by car you'll easily pay quadruple that within a year.

And yes, car parking is a problem. It takes up a lot of space. Look at Houston's 44% space being used by parking spaces and tell me that that's not a problem. It absolutely is. The parking IS part of the urban sprawl problem.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it isn't a lack of "supporting cars" that creates a problem of parking -- it's the opposite, in fact: it's the nigh-weaponised dangerous support for cars that creates the problem for people.

Frankly, I think it's weak if one only ever can drive by car. Walk, bicycle, and use public transit - now that's real independence.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

I don't change clothes either when I bicycle.

Then you’re probably not working in a job that has decent dress standards, or your coworkers hate that you smell.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you think you can bike in any weather, you haven't biked enough 😅. There's absolutely limits. Regardless, you don't need to carry a change of clothes when you use your car.

Yes, but conditions outside the limits for a bike are also generally unsafe to drive in. It's lovely to ride on studded tyres past a line of cars that have slid into a snowbank.

You don't need to carry a change of clothes on a bike often, but if you do, clothes are usually light and we have suit carriers, shirt shuttles and so on. Some of which are also used to carry a change of clothes in cars.

Some people, mostly anglophone, like to play spandex dress-up for cycling or sprint lots, but that's a choice, not a necessity.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My change of clothes is because during winter I get all sweaty by the time I get to work, nit because I like to cosplay Tour De France.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 4 points 3 days ago

Wear less, wear better, or ride gentler, unless you're one of the (unknown size) minority that can't ride on a cold day without sweating.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hah, or seen enough weather. Even 40kph winds can be enough to make me think twice.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or enough rain and snow that you can't see more than a meter ahead.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ski goggles exist. Again, literal skill issue.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

If you think you can bike in any weather, you haven’t biked enough

Absolutely. I remember being seriously delayed by weather that made even me to seek cover. Biking through open fields during a thunderstorm is something which I leave to idiots claiming they can bike in every weather. I prefer staying under a bridge or other dry and safe place until the storm passes.