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The accounts being discussed here have pushed agendas within the US, and commented on US politics regularly. Many are also named to echo political movements, like some MAGA accounts.

However, these ‘political influencers’ have been found to be based outside the US, raising questions about the motives.

One profile going by 'MAGA NATION' with a follower count of over 392,000, is based out of eastern Europe. Similarly, ‘Dark Maga’ a page with over 15,000 followers is based out of Thailand. ‘MAGA Scope’ which boasts over 51,000 followers is actually operated out of Nigeria, and ‘America First’, an account with over 67,000 followers is based out of Bangladesh.

“At this time thousands of MAGA-aligned influencer accounts and large political pages that claim to be based in the U.S. are now being investigated and exposed with many of them traced to India, Nigeria, and other countries,” a news aggregator page on X noted.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 196 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I do find it strange that this is surprising to some.

It’s been pretty obvious to us external observers.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 78 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

At the time, the bot accounts claim was always difficult to prove. There were mountains of anecdotal evidence but nothing concrete. Not anymore.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago

The thing that did it for me was several years ago when Russia disconnected the whole country from the Internet for a day and Reddit instantly transformed. Nearly all of the trolls in political threads disappeared, and discussions became nicer and way more the left-leaning.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 days ago

Yes; as with so many revelations, the facts shouldn’t be surprising, but the evidence is actionable where the assumptions weren’t.

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 37 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I guess I'm a little surprised at the diversity of where these pages are based, lmao. I thought it would be a lot more Russia, Israel.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plenty of troll farms are in third world countries, which are paid by powerful state actors behind the scenes, exploiting the economic desperation of people from these countries. Last year's country-wide anti-immigration riot in the UK started with a single post of a fake news, which has been traced to a user in Pakistan. The user was interviewed and said he was simply paid and didn't think there will be profound consequences.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 11 points 3 days ago

A lot of troll farms were raided during the Biden era. While it wasn't enough to change the tide, I can imagine that combined with Russia's war on Ukraine being a prime motivation for the administration's interest in AI.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who says it isn’t? The geolocation only does the first hop. Of course, in the case of Nigeria, it’s organized crime running this with forced labor and being paid off by international interests to do it. It’s more profitable than nigerian prince scams.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Alot of shell companies is my bet.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

I think the geography is that of bot farms. The money comes from somewhere else. My guess it's probably the same people you'd suspect, and they are not foreign. It's the kind of people that would sell out their own country for a .5% reduction in their tax rate.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Was it just a meme I saw, or is the DHS account really based in Israel?

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure it's a satire. The sign up date was 2008. Which only raises more questions.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

They are the paymasters. But they can employ their workforce from all over the world.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Instagram is just as bad. Some accounts make provocative comments but never reply. Looking at their profiles as well, they have little to no followers or no post at all. It's like with Reddit in which accounts that are months or years old with no activity, and then suddenly become activated posting hateful single issues.

The intention is to divide the people so that powers-that-be hoodwink us while stealing from our pockets. Many of us know better that the posts are ragebaits. However, social media companies do nothing about bad faith actors because they benefit from angry discourse to inflate engagement and attention for more traffic and advertising. You wonder who are the people are surprised by this? It's mainly those who don't expand from their narrow experience and like digital brain rot contents.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I'm surprised it is getting caught by this feature. I thought routing those accounts through a US based connection was table stakes. But, I guess there is no point bothering until people actually are able to see.