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[–] celeste@kbin.earth 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking legally? I believe parents should legally lose all rights to their child when (at the moment) they use violence against them, and if it turns out they were violent, there was no abduction because the safe parent had the right to travel with their child. Since this is not how the law works, currently, DV should be an exception to the proposed law in order to keep abusive parents from using the law as against their victims. Resources should be devoted to ensuring the abuse happened, so false accusations can't be used by the abductor to justify kidnapping.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You still haven't answered my question.

Or rather, you have. By not answering 🙄

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Each parent has the same legal right as the other, but neither is allowed to harm their kids, or they lose those rights.

Again, the right of a child to live free from abuse is greater than either parents' right to have them around. If it is illegal to protect a child from harm, or remove them from harm, it should not be. Courts should be equipped to figure out if the parents are safe for the child, and act accordingly. Removing a child from a parent who is harming them is good and correct, even if the parent who does it doesn't know english well enough to follow correct protocol. Removing a child from a safe parent through abduction is bad. The parent who does this is harming the child and should not have access to that child to prevent them from doing it again. The best interests of the child far, far outweigh parental rights. Parental rights are nothing, if they don't benefit the child. This is my answer. Did you get your gotcha yet?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Each parent has the same legal right as the other, but neither is allowed to harm their kids, or they lose those rights

Yes. At the point when they lose their rights, they no longer can stop the other parent from permanently taking children abroad so it is a non issue.

This legislation is to stop one parent taking the children away without consent of the other parent, abducting them - and I am delighted it has been introduced.