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This is my take on it as well. For example in E3
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Where she has them restock the grocery store. Just the level of waste society incurs to let her have the "freedom" to choose her own groceries when she has the ability to command literally any meal based on her preferences delivered to her doorstep.The grenade / a-bomb conversation is also a good criticism of the absurdity of American gun laws.
Carol sucks so much. Small minded and misanthropic. She's freed from all her obligations and has access to the entirety of human knowledge at her fingertips, and instead of contributing to the project she locks herself in her house, drinks vodka and watches the fucking Golden Girls. At this point the best thing for humanity would just be to shoot her in the head.
Good criticism of Amerikkkans ngl
I haven't completely organized my thoughts on this but
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The show's title is literally pluribus, as in "e pluribus, unum" or w/e the american motto isOut of all other immune people, she is the only american and the only one that has a problem with the new world
Carol's tantrums kill millions of people and she's the only one that does it
This show seems like it's exploring the many contradictions of american thought/ideology and the psychosis it imparts on its subjects. I'd say it's just like Breaking Bad and BCS in that way. As you said with the grenade convo, Carol is dumbfounded that the hivemind would be so willing to give her dangerous weapons, but what was the status quo in america before if not that? Maybe not as extreme as handing over a nuclear weapon (not that she'd realistically be able to use it even if she did have one), but I see that as a contradiction. In that same episode, the hive mind points out Carol donated to environmental causes, yet she's set off by the city lights being turned off to conserve power and resources. There's a lot of things americans say they want for the world and themselves, but once it's realized in any form they have nothing but criticisms and complaints, as if they seek unhappiness as much as Carol herself does.
All that to say, I can not see this being about AI (and Gilligan has already said it's not himself as well).
I'd also say it's not anti-communist - in fact, a friend pointed out to me this is one of the only shows that is engaging with the ideas of socialism/communism and offering some nuanced ideas/critiques on what a world like that can look like. Capitalist critique shows are a dime a dozen at this point, but Pluribus is unique in this way.
a hivemind is not communism though. a hivemind is the caricature that USians think communism is (no individuality, brainwashed etc.). the show is not actually engaging with what communism would look like. i feel like if a show regurgitates shit about stalin personally killing a bazillion people without pushback, its very fair to say its anticommunist
That would be part or the critique - taking the stereotypical American idea of communism to its extreme and then asking "what's so wrong with this, even if what you believe about it is even true?"
Again, part of the critique - Carol is the chauvinistic American in this story, these are the things Americans believe.
thats not critique, thats just making things up.
it is never given a counter in the episode. it is not critique, it is just what the show believes to be true
Yeah, I think whoever wants to name a mass murderer and comes out with any name except Hitler is 100% a fash. Or a dumb American.
That's the point. It's a line Carol, the dumb American, says.