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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 132 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"I visited europe" goes to the uk

The uk is somehow actually less european than the caucasian countries and kazakhstan which everyone criticizes for pretending to be european.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The idea that the UK has less in common with France than France does with Kazakhstan is hilarious.

Bravo!

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Is the UK american, or the US British?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

There's more monarchists in the US.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How to start a war with a single question.

Fun related "fact": Shakespeare supposedly sounds more period-accurate in a generic American accent than a modern British accent because the British dramatically changed their accent some time after the US split and the American accent has changed less over the centuries.

[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The British accent? There are hundreds, if not thousands of different accents.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And there are equally as many American accents.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20180207-how-americans-preserved-british-english

One feature of most American English is what linguists call ‘rhoticity’, or the pronunciation of ‘r’ in words like ‘card’ and ‘water’. It turns out that Brits in the 1600s, like modern-day Americans, largely pronounced all their Rs. Marisa Brook researches language variation at Canada’s University of Victoria. “Many of those immigrants came from parts of the British Isles where non-rhoticity hadn’t yet spread,” she says of the early colonists. “The change towards standard non-rhoticity in southern England was just beginning at the time the colonies became the United States.”

American actors have a head start with performing in OP: it’s “so much more American” than the prestigious Received Pronunciation accent in which Shakespeare’s plays are generally performed now, says Paul Meier, theatre professor emeritus at Kansas State University and a dialect coach who’s worked on theatre productions like an OP version of A Midsummer Night’s Dream.

For instance, Americans are already used to pronouncing ‘fire’ as ‘fi-er’ rather than ‘fi-yah’, as most Brits would.

It’s useful to know how words would have been pronounced centuries ago because it changes our appreciation of the texts. Because British English pronunciations have changed so much since the era of Queen Elizabeth I, we’ve rather lost touch with what Early Modern English would have sounded like at the time. Some of the puns and rhyme schemes of Shakespeare’s day no longer work in contemporary British English. ‘Love’ and ‘prove’ is just one pair of examples; in the 1600s, the latter would have sounded more like the former. The Great Vowel Shift that ended soon after Shakespeare’s time is one reason that English spellings and pronunciations can be so inconsistent now.

So what’s popularly believed to be the classic British English accent isn’t actually so classic. In fact, British accents have undergone more change in the last few centuries than American accents have – partly because London, and its orbit of influence, was historically at the forefront of linguistic change in English.

As a result, although there are plenty of variations, modern American pronunciation is generally more akin to at least the 18th-Century British kind than modern British pronunciation. Shakespearean English, this isn’t. But the English of Samuel Johnson and Daniel Defoe? We’re getting a bit warmer.

[–] zip@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's super neat. Thank you for sharing that and linking the article! I appreciate it! :)

I love weird trivia like that. Another fun one is that scientists have discovered 3 or 4 different regional accents across the US in the calls of crows.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are they all distinct accents, or are they slight variations on an accent?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Bit of column A, bit of column B...

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well, they're all equally fancy to me!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's generic American mean?

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

West Coast/Californian

Think Midwestern, not New York, Bostonian, or Southern twang.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

vowels tend to be spoken with a flatter, wider mouth/tongue shape

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Which existed before the other?

The US is British, that is why they speak English and not Americans.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given that the British keep fucking latinizing their damned language you'd think they were trying to move away from English. Seriously you don't say solder off you sod off, remove the L you Saxon fuckwads.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Now, now, I know it's frustrating, but try to soldier on.