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My insight: EU is not interested in training AI for your corporations, neither are personal chats with likely zero accuracy/factuality good training material, neither is sms-style grammar going to improve any existing AI, everything about this is illogical and pretty stupid. It has always been about control, not.. training AI lol
Illogical? Chat is not just about sms-style dumb texts. It's images and videos. Trillions of freshly taken photographs. Those are tremendously valuable. And even if it'd be just text, it's natural training on people. But it's also video calls, another incredibly valuable thing.
And sure, the EU has no AI to offer, hence I said "some ai billionaire" or anyone or lobby that wants that shit being pushed hard.
But as it is just a thought of a possibility I might totally be wrong. As if peasants like us would ever be allowed to know.
Again, that is not a good training material. There have been numerous studies on the type of training data we feed and the result of it. This type of content tends to poison the data and lead to equalivent of brainrot for AI's. This is not very useful data for AI, there are far better sources. Again, seems highly illogical the EU would do all this just to train some shitty AI. Training material should also always be accompanied by context data, which is commonly missing from instant messaging. It's just too big of a mess.
Fair points. But "just" surveillance? Anyone worth being surveiled sure wouldn't be so dumb to use WhatsApp or other stupid crap. I'm worthless to surveillance and even I would not be possible to surveil.
Just seems weird that it's pushed so hard. Surveillance was always a must-have, but why now? The moment it gets voted away it's back on the table.
Counter-argument: all my drug dealers use whatsapp. Real life is not movies, criminals are rarely tech savvy.
Depends on the level of criminal though. Pedo-networks surely know to evade the law. See e.g. the major pedo-forum which exists for way Over a decade and is full to the brim.
I also doubt that anyone really cares about some street-level-thug. Anyone seriously slinging would surely also just ditch surface apps. If they'd even use those phones at all. I wouldn't.