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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Again, that is not a good training material. There have been numerous studies on the type of training data we feed and the result of it. This type of content tends to poison the data and lead to equalivent of brainrot for AI's. This is not very useful data for AI, there are far better sources. Again, seems highly illogical the EU would do all this just to train some shitty AI. Training material should also always be accompanied by context data, which is commonly missing from instant messaging. It's just too big of a mess.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fair points. But "just" surveillance? Anyone worth being surveiled sure wouldn't be so dumb to use WhatsApp or other stupid crap. I'm worthless to surveillance and even I would not be possible to surveil.

Just seems weird that it's pushed so hard. Surveillance was always a must-have, but why now? The moment it gets voted away it's back on the table.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Counter-argument: all my drug dealers use whatsapp. Real life is not movies, criminals are rarely tech savvy.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Depends on the level of criminal though. Pedo-networks surely know to evade the law. See e.g. the major pedo-forum which exists for way Over a decade and is full to the brim.

I also doubt that anyone really cares about some street-level-thug. Anyone seriously slinging would surely also just ditch surface apps. If they'd even use those phones at all. I wouldn't.