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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ah, so it's wałęsa type of nobel.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I feel like at least half of the peace prizes have been given to pro-western / color revolution "dissidents" since the 60s

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 days ago

And the other half to the war mongers like Henry Kissinger and Obama.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also, wasn’t the Nobel Prize kind of just a western PR stunt?

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The science ones are generally legitimate. The literature and peace prizes have been wholly co-opted by western interests. The economics prize isn’t even a real Nobel, it’s just a prize sponsored by the Swedish central bank and administered by the Nobel Institute, and it’s a pure PR tool for legitimizing neoliberalism.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The science Nobel prizes are outrageously misogynist. In the last few years, they are finally giving it to actual female scientist because they can no longer suppress women researchers without facing a single criticism, unlike the past. Cecilia Payne, Chien-Shiung Wu, Vera Rubin got treated like shit.

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

By "generally legitimate" I just mean that they're awarded to scientists for real things, as opposed to, like, giving the medical prize to RFK Jr. It's still a shit institution.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right and even the guy it’s named after tho. Kind of a piece of shit.

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Most things are named after pieces of shit. Being a piece of shit is the number one way to get something named after you. That's not to say the Nobels aren't a sham, but conceptually there are more offensive things than a prize that's supposed to go to someone who contributes to humanity. Impressive that the system so effectively coopted them to do more shitty things. Important lesson there.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

The peace prize yes. They've made really questionable choices from Kissinger to Obama (Who really did win because Not Bush). No one should take it seriously.

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At least Wałęsa didn’t want his nation to die under tyranny.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's a very risky statement. wałęsa is the personification of the worst stereotypes of lumpenproletariat, he ~~would~~ DID sold entire nation under the tyranny of the exact same capitalism she is doing. If that would entail violent forever war at the hand of USA, why not, in a blink.