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Rep. Adelita Grijalva, D-Ariz., signed a petition Wednesday to force a House vote on releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein, giving it the needed 218 signatures.

Grijalva was sworn in as the newest member of Congress on Wednesday, more than seven weeks after she won a special election in Arizona to fill the House seat last held by her late father.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 60 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

It will happen, but it will go one of three ways:

  1. The "files" released are another butchered, redacted version of shit we already know, not directly naming Trump or anyone of note from any reputable, ironclad source, and when Dems pathetically go "Hey man, not fair!" it will get snarled in gridlock for another three years of "will they or won't they" or until Trump keels over dead.

  2. The files have been disappeared during the 70 days the government was shut down. Sorry, we can't find them, we looked everywhere. Welp, whattaya gonna do? lawl lets go back to sending brown people into the ocean and stuff.

  3. The files are released, have damning evidence, written testimony from credible eyewitnesses and a mountain of evidence linking Trump directly to Epstein... and wait, I'm being told we already have all that. So we get more and still nothing happens? Yah, that also sounds about right.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Thank you for making this explicit and clear. Anyone realistically hoping for any other outcomes is just blind to what has happened to the US government.

I want these released, but when I see people thinking this is somehow the answer to all of the injustice instigated by the executive branch, I'm dumbfounded.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

They could find pics and/or video of Pedonald ballz deep in someone underage, and most of his cult will just declare that it is "AI" or "fake news" and continue to support him like the nutless cult members they are.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

is just blind to what has happened to the US government.

At the risk of being that guy, it's not what has happened to the US government, but what the US government has always been. Like, rich men getting off scot-free for diddling kids (and other crimes against ordinary people) didn't start with Trump; the Epstein files didn't become a thing under Trump. America has always been a country by and for rich men.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

That's pretty much the world mate. Rich men used to do a bit of a better job in the US of keeping each other in check though. Epstein was a rich man. You can argue he should have / would have been brought to justice sooner, but at least he was. The opposite of being blind to what's going on is being so aware of it that you become nihilistic about it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

I hope a lot of people wake up after this is all over and realize that their ideas that there is such thing as "law" have been woefully misguided and naive.

There is no such thing as law, at least not "blind" law, it's just a way they make poor people feel okay because law applies to other poor people as well. But it's always been like this, people in positions of power are almost always immune to the laws that they write and control. We are not a better species, we are not evolved.

I think if more people understood this, we might choose our leadership with more care.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago

Probably 3, since Epstein said trump was already with a victim for hours at his pedo house. I'm 99% sure he meant rape because they were underage.

To GMax, from Epstein:

i want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is trump...(VICTIM) spent hours at my house with him,, he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75% there

Link to files: https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/democrats-oversight.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/3-emails_redacted.pdf