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CHAT CONTROL 2.0 THROUGH THE BACK DOOR – Breyer warns: "The EU is playing us for fools – now they’re scanning our texts and banning teens!" (www.patrick-breyer.de)
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[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Has it ever been leaked who it is that's pushing for chat control so hard? It's almost comical at this point

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Leaked? It's public knowledge. Danish civilians are just too cowardly to show these authoritarians who are the actual bosses.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Why is it allowed that a rinky dink country with a population of 6 million dictates the privacy laws of an entire continent of 750 million inhabitants?

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I am anarchist, I know the answer capitalists keep protecting.

Answer:Because the system is working as capitalists/bourgeoisie intended.

They hold all chips, you don't.
You are a slave in their eyes.
A means to exploit.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That scrotum is just the current driver, but they're probably referring to some unnamed lobbying group that's been pushing for this for years. I'm not sure the identity of that group was ever revealed.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

… comrade, everything in the EU is public. Capitalists in parliament are capitalists, their lobby is public:
You are their slave, they are your Masters.
You do not deserve privacy, they do.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I was referring to the HLG that helped draft this legislation. We know who in the EU sent out the invitations, but requests to find out who was in the grouo were denied.

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/high-level-group-hlg-access-data-effective-law-enforcement_en

This is still (afaik) not public information.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Did you follow the links on the PDFs? Their names & draft sites are all cited throughout the citations.

e.g. Written submission: EDRi

  1. Bill Goodwin, Dutch lawyers raise human rights concerns over hacked cryptophone data, Computer Weekly (October 2022) https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252526497/Dutch-lawyers-raise-human-rights-concerns-over-hacked-cryptophone-data
    Letter available at: https://media.licdn.com/dms/document/media/D4E1FAQHyO5aQ3qvwBQ/feedshare-document-pdf-analyzed/0/1666528452891?e=1709769600&v=beta&t=e1EzhDjzuCV_O82MNHFrYo49bw-zVTrtVtNT62FyZZE (in Dutch)
  2. European Court of Human Rights, Case of Yüksel Yalçinkaya v. Türk ye (Application No. 15669/20) Judgment, İ https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/?i=001-227636
  3. According to the Arrested Lawyers initiative, “the government claims that anybody who may have downloaded it is, in fact, a “ter- rorist.” The Arrested Lawyers Initiative, Report on the legal and technical issues around Turkey’s malicious ByLock Prosecutions, November 2021, available at: https://arrestedlawyers.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/report-bylock-november-2021.pdf
[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

You're citing from a document criticizing the HLG. These are sources for that criticism.

These are not members of the HLG itself.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 4 months ago

This is the most recent attempt. iIRC, some previous attempts have been spearheaded by Spanish right wings (crushing Catalan independence movements)