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“Pathetic”: Dems Tear Into 8 Senators Who Caved to Trump on Shutdown (newrepublic.com)

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The Democrats were furious Monday over eight senators who caved to support a deal to end the government shutdown that does not include the Affordable Care Act subsidies their party had spent weeks fighting for.

The offending lawmakers include Democratic Senators Dick Durbin, Tim Kaine, Jacky Rosen, John Fetterman, Catherine Cortez Masto, Maggie Hassan, Jeanne Shaheen, and independent Senator Angus King, who claimed that they’d ensured a Senate vote on extending the tax credits. Their capitulation comes after House Speaker Mike Johnson insisted for weeks that he wouldn’t promise them a vote on anything, and even if he does follow through with a vote, it’s unlikely such a measure will pass the House.

Democratic lawmakers slammed their colleagues for forfeiting health care coverage for an estimated 5.1 million Americans by 2034 and increasing premiums across the marketplace.

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders railed against the deal while speaking before the Senate Sunday. “If this vote succeeds, over 20 million Americans are gonna see at least a doubling in their premiums in the Affordable Care Act,” he said. “For certain groups of people, it will be a tripling and a quadrupling of their premiums. There are people who will now be paying 50 percent of their limited incomes for health care. Does anybody in the world think that makes sense?”

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Everyone has decades of experience with human behavior. Yours is no more valuable than anyone else's, so it's not a valid support of your argument.

Your opinion is easy because it's simple and convenient. For people facing harder realities, their opinions will vary, and that's ok. Those opinions are valid.

Peace and blessings.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Everyone has decades of experience with human behavior. Yours is no more valuable than anyone else’s, so it’s not a valid support of your argument.

There is no argument that supports any criticism of democrats as far as you're concerned.

Your opinion is easy because it’s simple and convenient.

Sometimes, things are simple.

For people facing harder realities, their opinions will vary, and that’s ok.

"If you have a different opinion from my unconditional worship of the democratic party, it's because you have it easy, not because your experience is valid."

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I never said your experience was invalid. I'm sorry but whoever trained you in rhetoric missed the mark completely. I'd ask for a refund, assuming you paid for it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I never said your experience was invalid.

Sure you didn't. Just that mine's not worth anything and those of people whose opinions match your own are valid.

I’m sorry but whoever trained you in rhetoric missed the mark completely. I’d ask for a refund, assuming you paid for it.

I'm sorry centrists think "gaslighting" and "debate" are synonyms.