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Passkeys are built on the FIDO2 standard (CTAP2 + WebAuthn standards). They remove the shared secret, stop phishing at the source, and make credential-stuffing useless.

But adoption is still low, and interoperability between Apple, Google, and Microsoft isn’t seamless.

I broke down how passkeys work, their strengths, and what’s still missing

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

convenience is security (change-my-mind lol)

Not at all. Typically they're opposites. But I understand what you're trying to say. More convenience leads to better security.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or rather, making security convenient leads to adoption. Making it inconvenient leads to insecure workarounds.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it's more convenient to be insecure than secure, users will pick insecure every time. There's a reason there are so many bad password in the top passwords in breach dumps.

I have to tell myself every time I go through some of my login flows that inconvenience to me means more so to an attacker, but most people don't have an adversarial mindset and just want it to work.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

User inconvenience is not at all the same thing as security.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, but the two tend to be correlated.

Example, MFA authentication is a security feature, but inconvenient as shit with low or no lifetime. Same complaints about short lived sessions on app sites. Especially when every login requires MFA....

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

MFA can be a variety of different things. In the case of passkeys, a prompt comes up on the screen, you click it, and that's it. It's both secure and convenient. That's why it's great.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah you get it. It’s a “slow = fast” type of spiel, just a bone to pick with colleagues who embrace anti-user practices needlessly.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the intermediary

Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago

Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.

Haha that’s the one ;)