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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/52834195

https://archive.is/je5sj

“If adopted, these amendments would not simplify compliance but hollow out the GDPR’s and ePrivacy’s core guarantees: purpose limitation, accountability, and independent oversight,” Itxaso Dominguez de Olazabal, from the European Digital Rights group, told EUobserver.

The draft includes adjustments to what is considered “personal data,” a key component of the GDPR and protected by Article 8 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.

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[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As if the GDPR was a barrier to IP theft

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Did you read the article? It says that making AI training easier is a key purpose of these changes.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why should any of us approve of making things easier for technofascists?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago

Did I say you should approve of it? I'm just explaining why it comes as no surprise to me.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why do you presume that all AI advancement is purely by technofascists?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

The kind of "AI advancement" that requires stripping away privacy rights is definitely done by technofascists.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

GDPR is a barrier for EU companies only

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

And my point was they’re already doing this in the face of regulation.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then why change the rules? The article's author seems quite convinced that this will make AI training easier.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because they want to strip the right to privacy so they can better monetize

Naive to think the GDPR is stopping anyone now.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Naive to think the GDPR is stopping anyone now.

So again, why change the rules? If the GDPR is already ineffective there's no need to loosen it more.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you asking me why some in Europe want to make it legal? Because they’re already doing it, just they want to make it legal

Make sense?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they're already doing it then no change is necessary. So why change it?

If making it legal makes it easier for them to do, then that was my original point. That's why I think they're making the change.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because laws are supposed to have teeth and consequences There is zero doubt that everything public on the internet or otherwise is consumed and aggregated by these companies; you still don’t understand why weakening regulations benefits them?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you are saying that weakening these regulations makes it easier for these companies to train AI on that data?

That's exactly what I've been saying all along too. I'm not sure what you think is being argued about here, or what you think I'm not understanding.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’re the one asking questions about changing it

It’s clear that weaker regulations allow them to do more with impunity as I originally stated

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No I'm not, I was explaining why I thought they changed it. You appeared to be arguing that there was some other reason, so I was asking what you thought that reason was.

As it turns out, though, you're saying they changed it for exactly the same reasons I said they were changing it. To let them more easily train AI on that data. So that leaves me wondering what exactly the point of all this was.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I suggest you revisit each response where you asked a question and let me know the count

All data on the internet is crawled and farmed. Weakening regulations doesn’t change this behaviour, just makes it legal

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wrote:

You appeared to be arguing that there was some other reason, so I was asking what you thought that reason was.

Emphasis added. I only asked questions to clarify what you were saying, since it was unclear.

Weakening regulations doesn’t change this behaviour, just makes it legal

Which, in turn, makes it easier to do.

If you don't think it makes it easier then we're back at square one, you don't seem to be presenting any reason why this change would be made.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

So you admit that you asked questions, specifically why, then told me my answer was your answer

Peak interaction you’ve got there

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Sounds like the problem is lack of enforcement of the existing laws rather than the existing laws being bad.

To provide an extreme example, just because there's a wave of murders doesn't mean murder should be made legal.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago

See, my first thought would be to crack down on the tech parasites that are ruining out society instead of changing the law to accommodate them. But I'm just a dumb American who lives in a place where corporations are allowed to do whatever they want including killing whistleblowers, but I'm sure that the fascist parties taking power in Europe won't do that.