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California Governor Gavin Newsom holds an early edge over Vice President JD Vance among young male voters for the 2028 presidency, according to new polling from a Republican-affiliated firm.

The latest League of American Workers/TIPP survey, conducted October 22-28, shows that among young men, 38 percent would vote for Newsom compared to 33 percent for Vance.

The findings suggest that Newsom—a prominent Democratic voice—continues to outperform expectations with a demographic that has trended toward the GOP in recent years. The results come amid renewed debate within both parties over how to win back young men, a group increasingly seen as pivotal to future national elections.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Democratic primary is going to be INTERESTING. God I hope we don’t fuck this up.

While I would love AOC, she would be the youngest by quite a bit. Plus, she probably needs to win something more than a house seat. It is great having a party leader that is so young.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

The problem with the party leadership route is that party insiders are the only ones who get to vote on it, and when that's the electorate she can't even beat Gerry Nadler. If she can run in a race with real people voting on it I think she could beat anyone.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Copy and pasting from my other comment

Her highest accomplishment is being a House of Representatives member. This is incredibly rare. Most people that become president have been elected in a statewide election, or had military, or were a part of the office in some way already (VP, secretary, etc).

To go from being a House of Representatives member to being president is a massive uphill battle.

I hope she runs and joins other democrats on the debate stage. It would raise her profile in a big way. She would have my vote for sure. But I would not get my hopes up simply cause of her experience level.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So because she isn't in the hierarchy, too easy say less burn the hierarchy down. IDGAF about your perceived "uphill" battle if she has the words and is elected in the primaries full send.

Literally, Trump wasn't shit before and had a shitty first term and they re elected him.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

The primary is the uphill battle. She’ll have my vote at all stages probably.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump never held office before being elected president. What he had was fame. Guess what AOC has in spades?

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Integrity, respect of her constituency, and empathy.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Tell me again how many times the current president was a senators or representative or in government at all. Your comment is garbage.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Her highest accomplishment is being a House of Representatives member. This is incredibly rare. Most people that become president have been elected in a statewide election, or had military, or were a part of the office in some way already (VP, secretary, etc).

To go from being a House of Representatives member to being president is a massive uphill battle.

I hope she runs and joins other democrats on the debate stage. It would raise her profile in a big way. She would have my vote for sure. But I would not get my hopes up simply cause of her experience level.

Your comment is garbage.

Grow up

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Quit juggling and Answer the question. What was Donald Trumps previous roles in government before he was the president.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Clearly you’re not actually interested in having a conversation since you are ignoring my actual points and the spirit of what I’m saying.

AOC shares nothing in common with what brought Trump to power. He has been a very well known national figure for longer than AOC has been alive. He had a national brand that gave him an advantage.

AOC doesn’t have this yet. She is very popular among progressives, but in no way is she taken as seriously nationally as somebody who has been making headlines since the 80s. Or even as someone who was a senator or governor or VP or cabinet member. She could earn this respect in debates, but it will be much harder for her than others.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I dont think its extreme to prefer some larger leadership roles before the largest one in the country. Even Obama had a senator stint. Even with it I think he squandered certain opportunities for progress because of inexperience. I'd still vote AOC before Newsom by a large margin but there are also other potentials in the party. Those potentials aren't as left as I'd like but they could be more effective at getting things done.

Trump is a strong argument against allowing inexperience...

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Well I'm not exactly happy about him so not the greatest example of who I would vote for.

To the extent that people are in his cult, he was a national celebrity heralded as the leader of multinational business concerns. That distinction should have carried huge burden of those concerns being crap, but the apprentice made him out to be smart supreme businessman.

As compelling as AOC might be. Her track record even in theory is a single congressional district.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And how well has that worked out for the country?

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I see you are just piling up your trash for that move to under the bridge. Worked out pretty good for China I'd say. But keep playing by outdated imaginary hard rules and thinking in your 1980s logic world let me know how that works out for you.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

So you decided to be an unrestrained asshole instead of admitting that your shitty example was flawed. Cool.

Go fuck yourself.